MM= The powers and abilities of the Martian Manhunter are a mystery to most people and to extent even his friends. He has the ability to totally control his physical structure allowing him to shape shift, morph fluidly, and even turn invisible or intangible briefly. Physically he is Superman's league in terms of strength and endurance, the only thing that can harm him is an intense fear of fire (inborn in all Martians it is the basis of the god H'ronmeer who as well as being the object of fear as a fire god is the god of death via association). The effect of the fear is to strip any Martian of their super abilities via the psychosomatic effect of their own body control working involuntary against them.
Martians also possess a range of undefined mental abilities, primary among these is the telekinetic ability to fly. They also seem to have a range of telepathic powers including mind reading and to an extent active telepathy. The extent and true limitations of these powers are not known. One of the most prised abilities of the Martians is the ability Mayavana, it is the gift to reach into another mind and create a mental reality as real as any normal reality. The strain of Mayavana is such that it can only be used once a life time and so is normally used on the one that a Martian loves the most, J'onn used it on the rampaging Despero so that he thought that he had destroyed the JLI (subsequently he reverted to a an embryonic state) and therefore save his friends.
hulk has nothing on his side but brutre stenght, and it's not enough to be him because 1.he could turn into a puddle of green slime 2. he could shapeshift into a rock or chair or something and have hulk looking like a dumbass looking for him and man other ways to take him down. hulk just can't win this one and Doomsday is probably weaker than hulk lbut he could still wail on his ass(but lobo'd give him a hell of a time)
I dont like to admitt it but I think MM can win this simply because he can become intangible and has the ability to fly. Hard for Hulk to smash him if he is intangible.
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I think those are just manifestations of his multiple personalities in his brain. I don't think those qualify as psychic abilities. All people have astral forms.
Martian Manhunter. People are classifying him superior than Xavier and since Jean Grey has already taken down Hulk via telepathy, then Martian Manhunter certainly can also.
You must be joking!
Martian Manhunter is not weaker the Superman. He is FAR more powerful. This is the guy who took down the ENTIRE JLA (including Superman) by himself. Batman (actually batman's strategies) have been used before to take down the JLA (when Rhas Al Ghul stole Batman's info and used them to take down the Justice LEague), but ONLY MM has taken down the Justice LEague by himself using direct confrontation.
He tore them apart.
They could not even touch him.
As for Superman the guy was thrashed like a sick puppy, before finally being phased through solid objects and solidified in them.
MM also touched the minds of everyone in the world, he caused nuclear power nations to launch their ICBMs (he would use the nuclear fires to create more copies of himself - and by the way he is no longer afraid of flame), and he was one of the main threats towards Oa (where the Green Lanterns get their energy from).
Superman said he was the most powerful being on earth, and the last person he would like to face in combat.
Green Lantern concured.
And the guardians of Oa agreed.
MM is almost as strong as Superman in strength, has heat vision, can phase through solid objects (and i would like to see how the Hulk can hit something intangible), can turn invisible, and is the most powerful earth telepath in the whole of DC. He does things Xavier would need Cerebro/Cerebra for.
The Hulk is powerful, and if he got angry enough he can take down the current Superman.
But the Hulk would not last long against MM. All MM would have to do is cause the Hulk to revert to Banner, and then squish him to pulp.
Or he could make Hulk think he won the fight by placing a simple mental image.
Or he could make the Hulk have a fight in his mind - where the Hulk thinks he is engaged in battle but he is just on the ground curled up.
And i would like to see how the Hulk's vaunted healing system (which is far better than Wolverines) would deal with a simple metal pipe phased into the middle of his brain or heart.
Anyways, i know this forum has a lot of Marvel fanboys, but truth be told MM would destroy the Hulk. (Infact according to DC,during the time DoomsDay destroyed the JLA and killed Superman, they had to make the MM into BloodWynd - when he was having mental problems - so as to be able to kill of Superman without too many questions asked. MM, as MM not Bloodwynd, could have handled DoomsDay all by himself. Quickly).
MM wins this. But i will not be surprised if by the end of the day it is several hundred votes for the Hulk and one for MM (since most people do not even know that much of MM, and even if they did they would never vote against Marvel).
For those who would like to know of MMs true power check out JLA: Trial by Fire. In it MM makes the entire JLA look like pipsqueeks,and does mental stuff that Xavier would have wet dreams about.
Hulk goes down. MM is probably the most underrated character in any comic book. His telepathy is FAR superior to that of Xavier. Ad to that his many other formidable characteristics, Hulk stands no chance.
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