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I think Spidey would be smart enough not to stand 2 feet away from Thing and start punching.


point taken but you didn't answer the question....


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Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
When did I say anything about avoiding the speed of sound.

Spiderman has swung and picked up a car off the ground with one arm to save wolverine from being ran over.

A sufficient amount of webbing could hold the thing for life, until it dissolves of course. smile

Shocker uses powerful attacks that are fast, as electro, cyclops, and dock ock, and he dodges those fine. The guy was built on dodging, I mean you think spiderman you think moving fast, he's been built off of it.

Thing can definitely win with a few strikes and is a better " fighter" than the hulk, but hulk can beat him making him the better "fighter", seriously a powerhouse is nothing new, look at rhino, venom, carnage, they could lob off his head.

Spidey could do this without his spidersense, because he can keep thing in view.


no I was talking about digi's response in how spidey would avoid the effectsof a thunderclap...he wouldn't and his "style" has nothing to do with it...


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<<<-murble*...stupid thunderclap. If Thing fights him like a man he'd lose. Still, I think Spider has a chance.->>>

laughing out loud are you serious? hahahaha! when spidey's best game plan is gonna be to jump out of reach and throw shit at him the entire time? if they got into it in a slugfest spidey would lose anyways...


I think spiderman's faced worse than thing, what do u see his chances are?


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Hehe...I got some homwork to do (stupid summer classes). I see Spidey's in good hands in this thread...have fun jinzin. cool

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point taken but you didn't answer the question....


what question?


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Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
missed the point of spidersense, seriously, spiderman has a greater chance against the hulk than thing does.


spidersense can't help him avoid getting thunderclapped...if he's in range for said attack spider sense will afford him nothing...


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if they got into it in a slugfest spidey would lose anyways...


Of course, but since when has Spidey just gotten into a slugfest with anyone to beat them? Much less, someone much stronger than him? Give the genius-level Parker a bit of credit.

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What is the scope of range and effectiveness we are talking here?


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Hehe...I got some homwork to do (stupid summer classes). I see Spidey's in good hands in this thread...have fun jinzin. cool

-DM


Leave me alone will you, Die Mortal, just kidding. wink


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Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I think spiderman's faced worse than thing, what do u see his chances are?


i think spidey's chances are better than you miht think...I think spiderman has a great chance of incapacitating thing with webbing..but that's about his best bet....he won't win a physical confrontation unless he gets extremely lucky....due to webbing I think this is a good 6 out of 10 for thing...maybe 7....


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Of course, but since when has Spidey just gotten into a slugfest with anyone to beat them? Much less, someone much stronger than him? Give the genius-level Parker a bit of credit.


Like I said the new venom is near thing level strength, and is a worse foe for spidey, spidey got pissed at him killing an innocent and laid it on him.

Venom tried to escape (the new host), because of his morale failure, the symbiote saw him as weak and dumped him.


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spidersense can't help him avoid getting thunderclapped...if he's in range for said attack spider sense will afford him nothing...


Well, that's just it, Spidey wouldn't get in close till he knows Thing is open to an attack or sufficiently annoyed to not fight smart.

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Of course, but since when has Spidey just gotten into a slugfest with anyone to beat them? Much less, someone much stronger than him? Give the genius-level Parker a bit of credit.


did you miss the quote that I was responding to?

digi was grumbling at thing using the thunderclap to secure a victory because he wouldn't be fighting like a man.....if they were both gonna be "fighting like a man" spiderman would lose anyways...i never claimed that's what spiderman was going to do...you seem to be having a hard time understanding my points...you may want to read my posts more carefully...


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i think spidey's chances are better than you miht think...I think spiderman has a great chance of incapacitating thing with webbing..but that's about his best bet....he won't win a physical confrontation unless he gets extremely lucky....due to webbing I think this is a good 6 out of 10 for thing...maybe 7....


Yea he would have to avoid him at all costs, but thats nothing spidey hasn't done before.


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Like I said the new venom is near thing level strength, and is a worse foe for spidey, spidey got pissed at him killing an innocent and laid it on him.

Venom tried to escape (the new host), because of his morale failure, the symbiote saw him as weak and dumped him.


where does it state the new venom as near thing's strength...i mean spiderman commented on his bigger size..but no indications where made about his strength level to my knowledge...correct me if I'm wrong..but I'm seriously curious when his strength was documented...


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Well, that's just it, Spidey wouldn't get in close till he knows Thing is open to an attack or sufficiently annoyed to not fight smart.


but "that's just it"...spiderman wouldn't instantly know thing's strategy for the fight...that said he'd be in range for a thunderclap...how many fights has spiderman gotten into where he began it from 60 feet away....cause the one's where he begins upclose seriously outweigh them I'm sure...


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due to webbing I think this is a good 6 out of 10 for thing...maybe 7....


I agree with this point. Spidey has a change but Thing will win more often than not.

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but "that's just it"...spiderman wouldn't instantly know thing's strategy for the fight...that said he'd be in range for a thunderclap...how many fights has spiderman gotten into where he began it from 60 feet away....cause the one's where he begins upclose seriously outweigh them I'm sure...


Of course, if they started face to face, then Spidey's in trouble. Fights that start from about 60 feet away are usually the ones where someone follows Spidey then attacks from range - but spideysense saves him usually, or speed when it's Venom and Carnage.

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against venom and carnage spiderman usually gets butt raped so I fail to see why you guys keep bringing them up in this thread...
chances are if these two where plucked from their worlds for the purposes of this fight then spiderman wouldn't be 60 feet away...that sounds like more of a plot device etc etc...even then I don't think that the clap would be entirely ineffective at that range anyways...it wouldn't be as effective..but it could still very well disorient spiderman's attuned senses...


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Against venom and carnage he isn't mad at someone killing an innocent.

He said and I quote:

This is dangerous. Too many people around. A nerd that's suddenly as strong as The Thing just has too much to PROVE.

CAPS and all, either way venom is a larger threat, and spiderman can beat him if not faced on his own terms.


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