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Mace Windu versus Yoda versus Count Dooku
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kamikz
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Originally posted by exanda kane
He intended to lose the fight at the beginning. Would Dooku really be foolish enough to believe Palpatine, when he asks him to fake the fight, is only testing Anakin's ability? Of course not. I believe Dooku knew why Sidious asked him to throw the fight, yet as an obediant apprentice, he threw the fight at the beginning.

I said that Mace and Yoda would use powerful powers, not agressive and explicit like force lightning, but powerful light side powers that would boost there abilities.


Threw the fight in the beginning?? I don't get it, what do you mean?

Well apparently Dooku didn't know about the plan, look at his face in the end, he is completly suprised that Palpatine asked Anakin to kill him, he wouldn't have expected that.


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Threw the fight in the beginning?? I don't get it, what do you mean?

It means that he was not trying his hardest at the beginning. When Anakin proved to be very strong he of course stepped up again, until the point were he was fighting for his life.

Well apparently Dooku didn't know about the plan, look at his face in the end, he is completly suprised that Palpatine asked Anakin to kill him, he wouldn't have expected that. [/QUOTE]

Then it begs the question...what did Sidious tell Dooku? As asking him to just have a friendly fight would obviosuly sparked off the thought that Sidious was about to get a replacement for him.

So the expression could be read as fear of the inevitable, the realisation that he has been betrayed, or even a brief conversion back to the light, realising that the dark side has been the death of him, and many others.


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You have some points but I still don't agree completly.

He was toying in the beginning, mocking Anakin to use his hate and anger, then he was on the defencive all the time, of course he didn't have time to do anything because he provoked Anakin to do so. So I agree that he defeated Dooku in the end, but in that state (if it was the complete same situation) for Mace he would probably be taken down by Anakin too.


The look on Dooku's face is the looks of a completly suprised Dooku, but whatever.

I still think Dooku's combination between force powers and saber fighting is excellent and is beyond Mace.
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Agreed


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If no two people gang up on a third person then Yoda. He has the best saber skills and is strongest with the Force.

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Yeah, but he also tires quickly so if he doesn't beat them fast enough, he will die. But I don't think that he would beat the others so fast as they are incredible swordmasters too.


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Wow Agreed fit many Threads


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Proclamation ~ There are too many variables to take into consideration when asking such a question.

Example~ Should you limit them to mere use of a lightsabre, Mace would be the victor. Like was stated before, should Yoda be preoccupied with the Count, then Mace could slay him from behind.

Proud Statement ~ However this ends up, the bloodshed would be most exhilerating to watch.


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YAY! .... wait thats not good eek!


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Proclamation ~ There are too many variables to take into consideration when asking such a question.

Example~ Should you limit them to mere use of a lightsabre, Mace would be the victor. Like was stated before, should Yoda be preoccupied with the Count, then Mace could slay him from behind.

Proud Statement ~ However this ends up, the bloodshed would be most exhilerating to watch.
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About Dooku throwing the fight I have a thought on that. Dooku is an enemy to the Republic for leading the CIS so if the Republic won the war Dooku would have been killed but if he say was defeated by Anakin and not killed and was taking to the courts General Grievous would lead the droid army still in the war and Dooku would blame Grievous for the entire war. The senate forgets about Dooku, they go after Grievous, Republic becomes the Empire, and Sidious and Dooku rule the Empire.


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My argument for Yoda not having enough energy to win this wasn't based on his use of Ataru but the extent at which he augments his physical atributes with the force. And though I as-well as everybody else here knows the limit to Yoda's force energy, I have a pretty safe assumption. My example is at the end of the Sidious fight when Yoda flees. I don't believe that it is because he is afraid or believes that Sidious is stronger than him. I think it is because he has run out of energy and is too tired to continue. So I think it is safe to assume Yoda only has the energy to fight for about the same duration his fight was with Sidious, which was about 8 minutes.

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ye its basically down top mace or tyranus.

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My argument for Yoda not having enough energy to win this wasn't based on his use of Ataru but the extent at which he augments his physical atributes with the force. And though I as-well as everybody else here knows the limit to Yoda's force energy, I have a pretty safe assumption. My example is at the end of the Sidious fight when Yoda flees. I don't believe that it is because he is afraid or believes that Sidious is stronger than him. I think it is because he has run out of energy and is too tired to continue. So I think it is safe to assume Yoda only has the energy to fight for about the same duration his fight was with Sidious, which was about 8 minutes.


Tell me, how could he have continued fighting without a lightsaber against somebody who has the higher ground and a lightsaber, and somebody who also usses offensive force powers? Yoda couldn't win the fight anymore he lost his only chance. So he left being tired has nothing to do with it.


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Tell me, how could he have continued fighting without a lightsaber against somebody who has the higher ground and a lightsaber, and somebody who also usses offensive force powers? Yoda couldn't win the fight anymore he lost his only chance. So he left being tired has nothing to do with it.

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mace windu would win and it would not even be that big of a battle. don't get me wrong it will be a big fight but realy there no way yoda or count can win.

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We know Yoda is more powerful than Dooku, we know hes more powerful than Mace...

Yoda has the best chance of winning, btw like I said before I think Yoda could take them both at the same time but thats just my opinion.

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mace windu would win and it would not even be that big of a battle. don't get me wrong it will be a big fight but realy there no way yoda or count can win.


Um....why?


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Considering that Dooku can use a single hand to sabre block both Anakin and Kenobi (using two hands and younger) then win the block and not show any exertion, I think in this fight it is.

but these jedi are much more powerful than anakin or obiwan


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