I think normal Jean in her immediate pre endsong days has a telepathy that had already surpassed Xavier and telekinesis of class 80. So telepathy or not, she can give iron a good fight.
Tony's packed psi-shields ever since the return from Heroes Reborn. He was wracked by guilt over Immortus manipulating him into killing Future-Yellowjacket and Luna's nanny, Maia, and essentially said, "Never again!"
A furthur question: Since we're allowing that Jean comes in with shields up, what about the same for IM? Part of how he takes hits that would easily pierce heavy metal is that his armor is stiffenned by a forcefield all the time (this is how it can flex as he moves too), and he has a more powerful field he can power up as well. Is it a given Jean's telekinesis function through his forcefields?
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why wouldn't Jean Grey just form a shield around herself and around tony's armor? Essentialy if anything got through she has protection while Tony has the potential to blast himself on accident due to her shield around him lol.
So...Jean has no limits (ie, range, power)?
If she doesn't, then why isn't she the most potent thing goin'?
If she does, why can't Iron Man exploit them?
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Since no one's said this yet, I think I'll be the first idiot to say it. This is how Tony would lose:
Jean brings alcohol.
Anyways, in all seriousness, is Iron Man's armour protected from TK? I know it's protected from TP, but I was just wondering if anyone had any instances which would show it. It sounds like something that Tony would build into his armour.
It's not a specific TK protection, but again the whole suit is suffused through and through with micro-forcefields. It's part of how it moves quickly and with fluidity rather than like a big tin can. It's also part of how Tony doesn't die when he corners at high speeds.
Now would all that keep Jean from just taking him out Darth Vader style? The fact that the Mandarin never did just that makes me think yes, but that's only a supposition.
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Jean encountered an alternate universe Iron man once and socked him with a TK hit. He said that he wouldn't survive a second assault.
Soleran, Jean has formed a TK shield around opponents before so that their powers were only effective inside the shield. Nothing gets in or out if she doesn't want it to.
Any scans or issue references of him saying this and then subsequently resisting tp attack because of him doing this? His bio certainly doesnt claim it to be part of his standard equipment now.
Who said anything about prep time for Jean? You've misinterpreted whats been said. Someone said whats to stop Iron Man from using a uni beam prior to Jean assaulting him telepathically and i said that Jean would put up a tk shield from the offset, before launching an assault. Thats common sense she is of human durability and she knows shes going up against Iron Man. Thats completely different.
All of this forcefield talk around his armour is sounding like speculation to me. You got anything to back up these claims?
If he does have always on forcefields to aid with movement( ?) and to reinforce his armours structural integrity then they are for that purpose only and they are not sufficient enough to protect against an assault which is why he employs an additional forcefield when he is in battle.Anyway before we get into that please provide proof of this force field talk.
Dont try and dismiss my argument by implying things about both my credibility and my objectivity boy. You are far from regarded as a shining example of neutrality. Especially when it comes to matters regarding Iron Man and the Fantastic Four, so dont try it.
As you pointed out, these mini always on force fields are in place to aid the inner workings of his armour, they are NOT designed to withstand assault from a high level energy wielder. That is what he employs an additional force field for in battle.
If Mandarin doesnt attack to the best of his ability, taking advantage of an obvious chink in Iron Mans armour then you can write that off as CIS. Regardless, there is NO evidence presented so far that shows Iron Man conclusively employs tp protection as a standard part of his equipment. There is No evidence whatsoever to show that Iron Man has protection against TK.
Do you have any backup that Jean can stand up to a blasts that are beyond what a Sentinel could pack without tapping into the Phoenix force? Also, Laminator X already gave you references to where it was said, and the exact line.
Also, don't try to dismiss Tony Stark's argument by implying things about his credibility and his objectivity, kid. You are far from regarded as a shining example of neutrality, especially when it comes to the Phoenix Force and the X-men, so don't try it.
Jean Grey is an omega level mutant and her telekinetic abilities are highly regarded in Marvel. Psylocke was imbued with Jeans telekinetic abilities back in 2000 and her telekinesis as stated in Uncanny X-men exceeds Marvel Girls in terms of power. Marvel Girl in Cable and Deadpool has shown to able to lift thousands of tons with her tk and her and Psylocke together have proven able to withstand and then redirect a blast from a Shiar warship in the most recent issue of Uncanny. Jean Grey would certainly be able to shrug off a few Sentinel level blasts.
Laminators reference was vague. It wasnt proof that psi shields were from that point on a standard part of his equipment. Hence the reason why i asked him to post the scene and then subsequent scenes in later events where Iron Man was shown to be psi shielded.
I for one can reference an instance where Iron Man has been manipulated by telepathy since Laminators posted reference. Psylocke for example assaulted him psionically in Contest of Champions 2.
Please read the thread again prior to replying. If you were to do so you would see that Tony never posted an argument, he posted his agreement of Laminators and then went on to insinuate things about my credibility and objectivity. I merely highlighted this with my reply and said that he's really not in a position to take such a perspective. Point dismissed.
While some people dont agree with my interpretation of Phoenix, noone has ever been able to prove me wrong as i am backed by a multitude of official sources. With that in mind who are you or Tony to make comments regarding either my credibility or objectivity?
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?) and to reinforce his armours structural integrity then they are for that purpose only and they are not sufficient enough to protect against an assault which is why he employs an additional forcefield when he is in battle.Anyway before we get into that please provide proof of this force field talk.
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