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Nazism 3 14.29%
Communism 2 9.52%
Democracy 9 42.86%
Republic 7 33.33%
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Freedom is the way.


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Freedom is the way.


What form of Freedom?


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There is only one form...


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There is only one form...


So total anarchy?


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If you must call it that yes....


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So total anarchy?


Sounds like fun! till you need the Police etc!


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If you must call it that yes....


Of course all the freedom in the world doesn't mean anything if a guy with a larger stick then yours comes along and decides it's his right to take that last can of out of date baked beans from you. Yeah, the can you were saving for a rainy day. Or those who inevitably abuse things. The one who imposes his power of freedom over others, and there is no one to stop them.

Anarchy isn't a particuarly pleasing option.

There is some benifit to living in a system with laws and protection and food production and the like. A benefit to people getting along.


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By freedom i don't mean i want war on the streets I just want the freedom to sit about chill and enjoy life without people telling me what i can and can't do.


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Sounds like fun! till you need the Police etc!


AN enlightened Anarchy does indeed sound like fun...then again it is just a very very liberal society so anyways.


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AN enlightened Anarchy does indeed sound like fun...then again it is just a very very liberal society so anyways.


Thats called Marxisim smile


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Thats called Marxisim smile
WRONG. You are thinking about Communism I am talking about Pure free Democracy.


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AN enlightened Anarchy does indeed sound like fun...then again it is just a very very liberal society so anyways.


I like that idea...


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WRONG. You are thinking about Communism I am talking about Pure free Democracy.


So was Marx originally.


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So was Marx originally.
And un-originally?


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has there ever been a communist state ran correctly?


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has there ever been a communist state ran correctly?


Nah, Cuba has a good education system though. Real Communism is an ideal not a reality.


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Nah, Cuba has a good education system though. Real Communism is an ideal not a reality.


Well outline that real communism you think is an "ideal".


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Well outline that real communism you think is an "ideal".


The idea of fair renumeration for produce, the choice to do what you want, when you want, society supporting each other for the communal good. I think that's an ideal ideal wink but impossible in reality.


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The idea of fair renumeration for produce, the choice to do what you want, when you want, society supporting each other for the communal good. I think that's an ideal ideal wink but impossible in reality.


Well, but that's not freedom. Some might consider it an ideal, I don't i think an individula in that society is not free and that'S what Liberal Democracies and Enlightened Anarchism is about. Naive Anarchism obviously relates more to Marxism.


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I think it comes down to trust... Can you say you trust a random stranger to help you out these days?


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