galactus power varies before eternity and the like came about i believe he was the most powreful being in the MU he is still more powerful then the celestials even in an alternate reality which made contact with this one he was said to have killed the celestials and there homeworld i think that means all of them. Celestials also have been shown to be hurt by lower beings then the skyfathers such as hulk. The Watcher stated at full power galactus could destroy the universe ten times over.
Ego is also a elder of the universe meaning he shares the same power as galan apparently at a larger extent then the other elders and him not being able to defeat odin i hope to goodness he was weak cause thats just stupid.
The Celestials are above Galactus. That's a fact. Tyrant is below Galactus and he relies to much on technology, stolen energies and his spheres of power he's nigh omnipotent too but not enough too face all those major gods who relies on magic that Tyrant and all of his heavy troops are vulnerable to. Maybe a full-powered Galactus could win against those gods (as the Celestials did) but that's to much to Tyrant who is not at full-powered Galactus level.
Tyrant was very powerful maybe in the next billions years he is right back w/ his spheres and techno-organic threats just to be beaten by some herald level character again.
the fact is you dont know what your talking about half the time thats a fact the fact is the watcher stated galactus could destroy the universe ten times over at full power thats a fact the fact is in an alternate reality he ate the homeworld and that can be called canon since it did happen the fantastic four of 616 are witnesses to that, another fact is that the dreaming celestial was gonna make him eat the 616 universe cause he knew he could thats a fact another fact is this he ate the dreaming celestial one of the most powerful beings in the universe with out even trying.
just because a celestial stated it, doesnt mean its true. a watcher is just as powerful as galactus by on panel depictions, but fear the celestials. once, galactus tried to mind read reed richards, but a watcher over ride his power to do so, and he couldnt. even galactus didnt know what was going no despite him being in plain view.
you cant destroy something 10 times, once its gone, its gone, alternate realities are moot. the celestials also dont have a home world. they did in the secret wars series. but it was since retconned. so if they dont have a homeworld in 616 universe, how could it be destroyed by galactus??? sounds kinda... alternate reality to me... which is still moot so this is strictly opinion...
a watcher is just as powerful as galactus who said that thats a load of bull how can a watcher say that galactus is the most powerful being in early comics and then be equal doesnt make sense use logic. Also the watchers are not higher then the celestials and yeah i think i believe a celestial over any of you who object just cause you dont want the gods to lose, you use the same objection they win cause there gods wow what a great argument by comic standars galactus is a cosmic god eternity is not depicted or called a god does that mean these guys can beat eternity or death? I think not those arguments of them being gods are mute since they lose so easily to giant space entities like the celestials, the watchers are NOT equal to galactus not even one is if you have proof please show me but since the watcher himself states galactus can destroy the universe 10 times over i tend to believe the watcher not one place in that sentence leaves room for the watcher to say oh but i can stop him im his equal.
you yourself proved yourself wrong about the watchers being equal to galactus since galactus ate a celestial EASILY meaning galactus was above that VERY powerful celestial whom you believe is to be below the watchers heh doesnt make sense.
"you yourself proved yourself wrong about the watchers being equal to galactus since galactus ate a celestial EASILY meaning galactus was above that VERY powerful celestial whom you believe is to be below the watchers heh doesnt make sense."
it wasnt in continuity. galactus in other realities has been defeated even easier than the one in 616 reality. if you want to be specific, start a thread of galactus vs. celestials in alternate realities. cause in 616 a celestial has proven to be above galactus.
i also did say that a watcher is as powerful as galactus because the only showing that i've seen, the watcher over powered galactus' telepathy and stopped him from carrying out his plan. they couldnt dream to do that to a celestial. marvel has also stated that a watcher, galactus, and the stranger are about the same power levels... in the same letter, addressed that the celestials "constitute the NEXT level of power". so me and marvel inc. are in agreement that celestials are more powerful. even on panel depictions show the same thing. this is very consistent and very true. atleast in 616 reality. i think this is the part you cant quite grasp. but dont worry, i'll be here all week to guide you and try and make it click
that doesnt prove anything all that proves is PIS galactus mind has been tampered with even lower beings then a watcher like professor x and thanos, there not watcher level or celestial all that is is PIS his mental powers should be untouchable in a non PIS version and i do believe that the galactus from THIS universe did consume the dreaming celestial with out even trying beside that the dreaming celestial knew he could eat the universe thats why he was messing with his hunger.
The fact is that you are a fanboy of Tyrant and Galactus who must have read the issues of Tyrant at least 2000 times. Galactus when full-powered is more powerful than most Celestial than what??? **** that! We're talking about Tyrant who is no Galactus either you like it or not. We don't say the gods wins cause they're gods but because they're God-Kings with an entire dimension of pure mystical energy to back them. This thread is about Tyrant not Galactus so don't come back here trying to insinuate we can compare Tyrant w/ a full-powered Galactus level.
Plus even if somebody here wanna argue that the gods will win just cause they're gods he would be right cause Tyrant is no more than a ambitious herald who relies on tech. Even though no body said that about gods but about SkyFathers.
yeah i vote for galactus im a fanboy i vote for tyrant im a fanboy i vote for thanos im a fanboy no matter who i vote for im a freaking fanboy what are you then? You always come here with nonsense arguments that the deffinition of a fanboy thinking that the character they pick can defeat whomever they wish with out any proof what so ever i gave proof though to bad you have NONE. maybe your the fanboy or worse a fanboy in denial. i guess since im a tyrant fanboy or a galactus fanboy your a odin, zues, zuras, king thor, thor, vishnu, osiris, and gaea fanboy wow you got alot of fanboyism in you. galactus has already defeated a celestial a very powerful one with out even trying at full power he would destroy all of them you should get that through your head he is a cosmic god these guys are not.
Excuse me, maybe I read your posts too carelessly, but do you have any evidence of that? To me that sounds like complete BS, Galactus is a cosmic entity who indeed has an essential duty in the universe unlike the Celestials, who just run their own experiments. And since the Watcher said that Galactus can destroy the universe (even several times) and I don't see Celestials having such powers, I have to disagree with your statement until I see some evidence.
Hopefully this didn't offend you, but there's a principle I tend to follow; believe the source that has more credibility. And in this case I have to lean to Marvel Comics rather than you statement. I'm sorry if I missed your pieces of evidence, but if you had any, could you please repost it/them?
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