I remember seeing them both and thinking it was unusual for such a mainstream MC to take risks like that, so I checked them out. I thought War was also really patchy but I don't even think I've heard all of Peace. I took the disc out. A rarity.
i like the diversity that all the really greats bring to the table, i like Mcenroe's beats because IMO, they're really suburban, im from the subs, so you kinda get the vibe with the music, RZA is also the same for me, his music is real urban, New York based, and i might be alone on this, but i think the Wu-Tang Clan owns New York, i gave my friend a listen to a track from Cuban Linx, and he told me it felt like being in New York again. Any producer that can bring that kinda vibe to beat is truly talented.
So is the part about it dissing common just a false myth or something? Cause I've always heard that "The ***** In Yoo" was in response to that track, or the other way around depending on which came first. I've never heard either one.
I've never been a huge beef-eater. I just recently heard "Ether" when I got Stillmatic.
Yeah I was planning on it, I already own his debut and The Predator.
Last edited by Afro Cheese on Mar 10th, 2006 at 04:33 AM
I'm pretty sure it was aimed just at NWA. I'll give it another listen though, there might be a line or two aimed at Common in there somewhere.
I'm bored by the whole beef thing too, it just so happens No Vaseline is a great hip-hop song. Other than that, I can't think of a single diss track worth listening to, even Second Round K.O. got dull fast. Actually, saying that, Mercy Killing by Esoteric was great. Not so much for the production of anything, just because he really buried Vast Aire and El-P. Most effective diss I've heard in sometime.
i hate beefs, just cuz its just friggin retarded, just battle and get it over, i haven't heard a solid diss track. Cage and esoteric was just flat out gay in my opinoin. neither made a deep diss track, i thought Runaway was decent though. BUT i did think it was funny when Cage and his boy ****ed up Celph titled, when they made the mistake of coming to his show, after what had happened between them.
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i remember that, that was the first cd i ordered. i wanted to get the original of one of the tracks because all i could find on the net was radio edited versions, and then the cd finally came and everything was still blanked out on it. im gonna go listen to mercy killing right now, i didnt know much about vast aire or el-p when i first heard it.
MF Doom, i cant believe nobody mentioned him, Daedelus and Blockhead, and god i love M phazes' work, Chain Letters and The Deadline are flawless production wise. DJ Natural on Typical Cats, that jazz is crazy.
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