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Kang War was good too.

And I wasn't comparing Red Zone or Zodiac to Re-Birth or Crisis (which had a stupid end with the Joker). I meant to compare it to Bendis' shitty New Avengers.

And Kurt Busiek's run, as I said was nigh-legendary. It was fun, it was a book I looked forward to every month. He didn't set out to change the status quo or revolutionize the medium, he set out to tell good stories. It's the most recent Avengers run worth reading.

Ellis' Iron Man was good, but before that his Ultimate Fantastic Four was terrible. Other instances of his work, Nextwave, Planetary, Transmetropolitan, those are the stories he wants to tell, and they don't mesh well with the superheroics that should be inherent to Avengers. He's a great writer, I enjoy his works immensley, most of the time, but that doesn't make him right for just any assignment.


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The Joker end wasan't HAT stupid...


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Maybe it's just me, but after all the bigtime cosmic hijinks, having the Joker shoot someone in the face--someone who just mucked with all the heroes, villains and various realities--was pretty lame.


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Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Kang War was good too.

[QUOTE=6780466]Originally posted by ScarletSpider
[B]And I wasn't comparing Red Zone or Zodiac to Re-Birth or Crisis (which had a stupid end with the Joker). I meant to compare it to Bendis' shitty New Avengers.


i know mate, but i still think Bendis's work surpasses the entire 3rd Volume, including the Kang Wars. smile



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Ellis' Iron Man was good, but before that his Ultimate Fantastic Four was terrible. Other instances of his work, Nextwave, Planetary, Transmetropolitan, those are the stories he wants to tell, and they don't mesh well with the superheroics that should be inherent to Avengers. He's a great writer, I enjoy his works immensley, most of the time, but that doesn't make him right for just any assignment.


If he can make Storm watch and Authority work, im sure he fit right in on the avengers. smile


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Maybe it's just me, but after all the bigtime cosmic hijinks, having the Joker shoot someone in the face--someone who just mucked with all the heroes, villains and various realities--was pretty lame.


I have no problem with greatest villan of all time ending one of the most epic comics of all time.

IMO, this type of incident/moment is what sets D.C. and marvel apart. Although Marvel are generally better at characterisation, D.C. are far superior a providing the monumental 'Holy Sh!t' moments. smile


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We're just going to agree to disagree.

I've enjoyed Bendis' work in the past, but I don't think he's done anything of merit on New Avengers. Having Luke Cage stand on his soapbox for half an issue was boring. The Collective's debut was a waste of an issue. he hasn't gotten any characterization right in New Avengers it seems. He killed Alpha Flight for no reason (this is a bit of a fanboy reason for my disliking his work, but whatever). House of M was sub-par. Secret War was boring. His Ultimate Spider-Man has gone down hill in quality and towards the end their his Daredevil failed to preform. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm just Bendised-out, he came on so strong and so fast and now I'm just tired of him.

And I still say Ellis wouldn't be right for Avengers. Again, maybe that's just me. He could write Stormwatch and Authority because he took it from the beginning and was able to make it weird and put his ideas in it. I would be interested to see him do a project with the Vision and maybe some of the weirder Avengers, but I think on the team ensemble, I wouldn't really have faith in him. Who knows, if it happens one day, I hope to be pleasantly surprised.


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We're just going to agree to disagree.

I've enjoyed Bendis' work in the past, but I don't think he's done anything of merit on New Avengers. Having Luke Cage stand on his soapbox for half an issue was boring.


laughing laughing So true !!!!!!


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The Collective's debut was a waste of an issue. he hasn't gotten any characterization right in New Avengers it seems. He killed Alpha Flight for no reason (this is a bit of a fanboy reason for my disliking his work, but whatever). House of M was sub-par. Secret War was boring. His Ultimate Spider-Man has gone down hill in quality and towards the end their his Daredevil failed to preform. Maybe that's just me, maybe I'm just Bendised-out, he came on so strong and so fast and now I'm just tired of him. .


I haven't read all of the Daredevil issues, but he generally on he ball. But i agree with you about House of M, and id add that Illuminati crap to that list. He's not strong on handeling 'titanic' events, and he should stick to his strenghths (I.e. developing street level characters).

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And I still say Ellis wouldn't be right for Avengers. Again, maybe that's just me. He could write Stormwatch and Authority because he took it from the beginning and was able to make it weird and put his ideas in it. I would be interested to see him do a project with the Vision and maybe some of the weirder Avengers, but I think on the team ensemble, I wouldn't really have faith in him. Who knows, if it happens one day, I hope to be pleasantly surprised. .


Its been a pleasure talking to you S.S. smile


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Is it just me or has the entire "Collective" storyline just been one big letdown?


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I liked the development Puck II was starting to get, really acrobatic, but with the unexplained "irresistable force" thing going on. They could have expanded that into a physics warping field around her body, or minor gravity powers, or something.

...And all that could have been.


Irresistable force? I never heard about this.


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Is it just me or has the entire "Collective" storyline just been one big letdown?


When you consider the quality of Benid's other work (Powers, Dare Devil etc) the whole New Avengers collection has been a let down. smile


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Is it just me or has the entire "Collective" storyline just been one big letdown?


Yes, it was a letdown.


And I have to say, I enjoyed Bendis's Secret Wars.


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Irresistable force? I never heard about this.


It may have just been a throwaway comment thing, but since her "powers" were never really explained, and we saw her bouncing around quite a bit, I had kind of hoped that it may have been Lobdell beginning to explain her powers. Course then it got canned, but y'know.

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i think i threw up when i saw xorn

WHY WOULD YOU BRING A CHARACTER LIKE THAT BACK


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Hmmm... I don't know, I just assumed she had a connection with Razer.


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No .... Only Superman fanboys are desperate enough to use that one. wink cool big grin
But Supes has flown to the Sun. It's nothing new for him. But now IM can do it? That's about as gay as a pregenant pole-vaulter.

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Actually, going back and looking at the issue, on panel, we only see Iron Man make it as far as the moon.


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Actually, going back and looking at the issue, on panel, we only see Iron Man make it as far as the moon.


Yup... i posted it on page 2 of this thread


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Has IM ever flown to the Moon before? That's still impressive.


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Well he's flown into space quite a few times.... don't actually know if he ever went as far as the moon before though


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