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there's no "hell fire" written in the Old Testament? read Deuteronomy 32:22...
Read it in it's whole context. It's not talking about hell fire..

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Romans 10:9-10, 13
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”


It is truly that simple. Of course you would do well to admit that you are a sinner, repent from your sins then ask Jesus Christ to save you.


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Save me from what???

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From your sins.


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There are no sins.......And even if there were, what? I'm gonna be saved from an imaginary place??

ps. Hi cking. You sure are quite...

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1 John 1:8
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


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Romans 10:9-10, 13
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”


It is truly that simple. Of course you would do well to admit that you are a sinner, repent from your sins then ask Jesus Christ to save you.

Are you stupid or do you simply do not understand my question? I understand, I have to repent my sins to go to heaven.

Now, the topic here is "God loves all of you even if no one else does." ok, how does God loving me help me in my daily life?


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well hello debbiejo how is life treating you? I have no room to post in this forum so I'm watching you guys duke it out in the ring until I come in and break you guys up.


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I do have to admit that many Christians sincerely do believe that they are doing a very good thing in saving others from what they believe hell is.....


No christian has ever saved anyone from Hell. All of the credit goes to Jesus Christ.

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Are you stupid or do you simply do not understand my question? I understand, I have to repent my sins to go to heaven.

Now, the topic here is "God loves all of you even if no one else does." ok, how does God loving me help me in my daily life?


The answer to your question starts with you being saved from your sins then, and only then can God have the type of relationship with you that will impact your daily life.

I have more than 100 posts to my credit and not once did I resort to asking someone whether they were stupid or not. sad

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No christian has ever saved anyone from Hell. All of the credit goes to Jesus Christ.


so why bother with your preaching...you cant save us from hell...so please stop trying...we'd really appreciate it...thank you


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Mark 16:15
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.

This is the responsibility of every disciple, believer in Jesus Christ.


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thats not what i asked...i asked why do it if it doesn't make a difference either way...

Maybe there is a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
And it's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah


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Re: God loves all of you even if no one else does

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Why does God love us so much? Well, the Word of God--the Holy Bible--tells us that God is love. Love is a Person, His Name is Jesus Christ.


I guess God realy does love everyone, including you, because he hasn't struck you with lightning yet for being such a fanatic! wink Just be carefull not to be too obsessed and attached to the truth. I'm sure God wouldn't want you to take things too seriously.

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Sticks and stones may...nah I'll remain mature. Go ahead and call me names.

John 15:18-20
18 “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

Persecution...hmm.


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Sticks and stones may...nah I'll remain mature. Go ahead and call me names.

John 15:18-20
18 “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

Persecution...hmm.


"Finding fault with others is what keeps you in samsara" - Buddha

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I quote the Bible because I am absolutely, positively, unequivocally, convinced and sold out on the fact that it--the Bible--is God's Word. Notice something folks. I have several hundred posts to my credit since becoming a member of this forum and not once have I called anyone any names. I have addressed you all by your forum names, used with all due respect frequently in some of my replies, and just done my best to remain civil. I have been accused of being stupid, cussed out on this forum repeatedly and called everything but by forum name on several occasions. I have been repeatedly criticized, demeaned, and ganged up on. Some of you have remained mature and treated me with respect. Just because I am solid in my faith does not mean that I do not respect anyone. I do respect all of you but I will not change what I believe.

Jesus Christ is the True God and eternal life, was crucified for the world's sins, buried, and raised from the dead. No other Person has been more maligned, hated, and blasphemed more than God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), or God the Holy Spirit. People use God in conjuction with profanity, "God_______." They use the Name of Jesus Christ like it is an interjection (e.g. Jesus Christ!). The say the Holy Spirit's Name in contempt as well (e.g., Holy______ or Holy that or Holy this). No other religious leaders names even come up in those kinds of contexts (i.e., curse words, interjections, and other blasphemous contexts). I have never heard anyone say, "Mohammed this! or Buddah that!" in any profane way. I have never heard anyone say the devil's name in a disrespectful way either. This ought to at least hint to the fact that Jesus must be the one, true, God after all. Just think about it. We say B.C. (i.e. before Christ, not B.S., before satan, or B.M., before Mohammed, or B.J.S., before Joseph Smith, or B.B, before Buddah). Why not? Again just more clues that perhaps Jesus is the true God. Anyhoo just thought that I'd share that with you all.

Let get myself ready for the backlash.


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You don't know that Jesus Christ is the true god as was stated on other threads.........What Jesus taught as many did was to love and not judge others,.,...and let your actions speak for themselves.......btw, I don't believe Jesus ever said HE WAS THE TRUE GOD!!........Yet I have nothing against you all Christians because I do believe you feel you are trying to save us from the flames of hell, and that is noble.......yet hell isn't a real place..........

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I quote the Bible because I am absolutely, positively, unequivocally, convinced and sold out on the fact that it--the Bible--is God's Word. Notice something folks. I have several hundred posts to my credit since becoming a member of this forum and not once have I called anyone any names. I have addressed you all by your forum names, used with all due respect frequently in some of my replies, and just done my best to remain civil. I have been accused of being stupid, cussed out on this forum repeatedly and called everything but by forum name on several occasions. I have been repeatedly criticized, demeaned, and ganged up on. Some of you have remained mature and treated me with respect. Just because I am solid in my faith does not mean that I do not respect anyone. I do respect all of you but I will not change what I believe.


I don't think anyone was questioning your maturity on the issues. However, by posting here your opinons become public and public information is available for disagreement. An unfounded opinon is not an opinion....its blind faith. In my humble opinon, blind faith is never acceptable. Rationalization is the way to gain credibility. You should not accept your opinons/blind faith to be readily accepted just because.

It is very difficult to rationianlise the Bible being the infallible word of god, but no other religious texts being right.

You're not the only one who has been spoken out against, please don't waste our time with a sob story.


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You don't know that Jesus Christ is the true god as was stated on other threads.........What Jesus taught as many did was to love and not judge others,.,...and let your actions speak for themselves.......btw, I don't believe Jesus ever said HE WAS THE TRUE GOD!!........Yet I have nothing against you all Christians because I do believe you feel you are trying to save us from the flames of hell, and that is noble.......yet hell isn't a real place..........


By Jesus Christ affirming that He is the Christ (i.e. Anointed One), the Son of God He is saying that He and God the Father are equal and one. The high priest knew this that is why he (the high priest) tore his own clothes then said that what Jesus had said was blasphemy.



Matthew 26:57-66
57 And those who had laid hold of Jesus led Him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled. 58 But Peter followed Him at a distance to the high priest’s courtyard. And he went in and sat with the servants to see the end.
59 Now the chief priests, the elders,[g] and all the council sought false testimony against Jesus to put Him to death, 60 but found none. Even though many false witnesses came forward, they found none.[h] But at last two false witnesses[i] came forward 61 and said, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and to build it in three days.’”
62 And the high priest arose and said to Him, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?” 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!”
64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”
65 Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy! What further need do we have of witnesses? Look, now you have heard His blasphemy!
66 What do you think?”

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