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batdude123
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Of course he does that stuff in his own series. Just not nearly as well. If he did Gotham would be a utopia. Come on, he can stop herald level guys in a few panels over in JLA but "Hush" is a 12 issue arc of Batman?


I've always wondered why Batman hasn't taken down every crook in Gotham. He certainly has the brains, and he certainly has the resources for it. It's just to keep his comics going.


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Inhumans : Medusa. Elastic hair? What the f**k?

Runaways: Chase

Young Avengers: Patriot. He's a poor fighter and he gets hurt all the time. Hawkeye is a far better fighter and her arrows are much more useful than shield that can't even take a laser blast. PLUS, she's the financial backing of the teams. She's rich. Patriot is poor...

Alpha Flight: Puck

Excalibur: Pete Wisdom. Hot knives?! Nocturne's possession power is an infamous last-resort tactic that has saved the Exiles' asses numerous times.

JSA - Wildcat. Dr. Mid-Nite is the surgeon who can save your ass when Solomon Grundy has ripped out your guts...

Thunderbolts - Blizzard

Birds of Prey - Huntress


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JSA - Wildcat. Dr. Mid-Nite is the surgeon who can save your ass when Solomon Grundy has ripped out your guts...


Exactly. Imo Wildcat has absolutely no use in the JSA. He's a waste.


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Astonishing X-Men- Wolverine, by far.
Fantastic Four- The Thing, although he's the coolest.
The original JLA- Acquaman. Sorry, but for me he's just poor man's Namor.
The Authority- Don't know so much about then.
New Avengers- Luke Cage.
Teen Titans (before Infinite Crisis)- I don't care.

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Co-sign to Wildcat

And trying to find a weak link in the FF is pretty tough. As teams go, they're more balanced than most. I'd vote Thing if I had to, but they're all quite useful and needed.


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Astonishing X-Men - Shadowcat

Fantastic Four - The Human Torch. Any offensive firepower he brings to the fight could be accounted for by Reed with a little prep

The original JLA - Aquaman

The Authority - Swift

New Avengers - Luke Cage

Teen Titans (before Infinite Crisis) - Speedy


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Noone cares about Aquaman...until he summons the largest army on Earth.

Seriously Atlantis is the premier of magic on DC Earth and its vast resources far outstrip any other Leaguers except of WW and Green Lantern.

Batman's rich? Arthur's ten times richer. He has alchemists that makes gold out of seashells for him....


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Astonishing X-Men - Shadowcat

Fantastic Four - The Human Torch. Any offensive firepower he brings to the fight could be accounted for by Reed with a little prep

The original JLA - Aquaman

The Authority - Swift

New Avengers - Luke Cage

Teen Titans (before Infinite Crisis) - Speedy


Shadowcat is definitely the most useful with Emma Frost following

Like when the Nega-Sentinel was about to nuke the team. Wolverine couldn't save them


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Shadowcat is definitely the most useful with Emma Frost following

Like when the Nega-Sentinel was about to nuke the team. Wolverine couldn't save them


I didn't mean to suggest that Kitty isn't useful at all. I was thinking more along the lines of who helps to round out the team overall and would allow them to deal with most threats.

Cyke- leader and offensive powerhouse
Emma- telepath
Beast- medical and tech
Colossus- super-strong brick

And I had a toss up between Kitty and Wolvie. The reason Wolverine got the slight edge is that I though his covert intelligence and military training/contacts might be more helpful as well as the fact that Marvel has now seemed to decided the hairy runt in indestructible. erm


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Noone cares about Aquaman...until he summons the largest army on Earth.

Seriously Atlantis is the premier of magic on DC Earth and its vast resources far outstrip any other Leaguers except of WW and Green Lantern.

Batman's rich? Arthur's ten times richer. He has alchemists that makes gold out of seashells for him....

Agreed. I don't see how Aquaman is considered useless unless we're taking Superfriends here. Shit, the magic hand alone is pretty damn useful.


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Also, he was able to develope fail safes for everyone in the league, and he's useless? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Fail safes that were stolen and almost ended up killing them all.

Yeah... That's re---al useful.


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Fail safes that were stolen and almost ended up killing them all.

Yeah... That's re---al useful.


Yeah, they kicked him off the team for it. But guess what? They couldn't have Batman be off the team for long. They made him a member again. And it's usefull if one of them goes insane, or double crosses the league.


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Which admittedly, does happen quite often.

Still, J'onn could easily come up with fail safes for the team. That would be more effective, and more sfae IMO.


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I've always wondered why Batman hasn't taken down every crook in Gotham. He certainly has the brains, and he certainly has the resources for it. It's just to keep his comics going.


Bats would have been dead a long time ago as well... cool


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Which admittedly, does happen quite often.

Still, J'onn could easily come up with fail safes for the team. That would be more effective, and more sfae IMO.


How? The JLA have expressed their dependency on him MANY times. Even J'onn has admitted so. My point is Batman has his place.


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How? The JLA have expressed their dependency on him MANY times. Even J'onn has admitted so. My point is Batman has his place.


Canonically? Yes.

Logically and realistically taking account all the characters' abilities? No.

He's on the JLA because he's Batman.


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Canonically? Yes.

Logically and realistically taking account all the characters' abilities? No.

He's on the JLA because he's Batman.


I agree that in some terms of intellect, they don't need him. But as a strategizer and as a detective? Even J'onn has admitted they need him in those departments.


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Canonically? Yes.

Logically and realistically taking account all the characters' abilities? No.

He's on the JLA because he's Batman.



No no no no no no no no no no no no ....... he's THE Batman!


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I agree that in some terms of intellect, they don't need him. But as a strategizer and as a detective? Even J'onn has admitted they need him in those departments.


Strategically? Eh. Diana's a cream of the crop strategy general. She's an Amazon after all. War is their picnic. And Martian Manhunter spent centuries at war as a general against White Martians and the like.

Detective? Batman is useful for his resources on crime. But they can always just call him up if they need him.

They spend more time fighting a giant hell-demon threatening the solar system. Not supercriminals they could fight by themselves.


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