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Spawn is over sky father lvl. he's on mephisto and Neron's lvl. They are entities. There are beings like mephisto, the nebula man, who are above skyfather. Like Darkseid and Surtur and Tyrant. They just punk Skyfathers. Darkseid, surtur and Tyrant happen to be high tier Entities. Mephisto and Neron are middle tier entities and Spawn is a lower tier entity. Thor Can't beat Spawn. Not if Spawn where to go all out.
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Of Course the power source means something. Mr. Mxy has unlimted power source from the 5th Dimension. The 5th Dimension>>>>> Quantum Field. Even tho both characters have unlimited power from their sources. The source it self is more versatile thus giving MR. Mxy the vast edge. Spawn's power source has greater versatility and representation behind it. Irgo he beats Thor to pieces and Quasar at the same time.
So basically, two people can have unlimited power at their disposal, but one can still always be more powerful than the other one. Spawn has never demonstrated overwhemingly more power with his source than Quasar or Thor have.
Juggernaut, for instance, gets his power from a powerful demon-god, but he would still be beaten by Spawn or Thor.
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The Juggernaut does not have access to unlimted power and cannot tap it. He's given a certain set of abilities that themselves maybe unlimted, but the juggernaut is not unlimited in what he does with them. He can't tranfer his unstopable motion to his fist for instance. He can't bend his force field outward in an offensive manner. Where as Spawn and Thor (to some extent), can tap thier sources and manipulate them to thier own ends. Spawn has the greater manipulation and greater source, thus having the greater edge. This is one reason I rate WW much higher than other's do. She can tap her God's any time she want's to or needs to and can get what she wants. If She wanted, she could ask zeus for Lighting bolts to rain from heaven on her opponent, and she would get it. Being able to tap an unlimited source in greater effects is what seperates people who tap power for one effect, like the hulk, vs, people who tap power for many effects like quasar, surfer, flash, vs people who tap power for almost any effect, Spawn, Odin, Dr. Strange.
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The facts are the same. Juggernaut's source is similiar to Spawn's, yet he is not Sky-Father. Having Heaven or Hell behind you doesn't make you Sky-Father. Overall, Spawn has done nothing to put him so far above the likes of Thor or Quasar, or any other top-tier for that matter.
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Mephisto and Neron are above Thor. And Spawn is thier equal. It can't get more plain than that. Besides, being a ruler in Heaven or Hell makes you more than sky father. Mephisto is, Neron is, Asmodel at his height was. Sky father seems to be capped at odin lvl in this forum. These guys are beyond that. Or do u think Odin could beat Spawn in 8th Hell?
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I'll try and break it down.
Almost all high tier or popular comic characters have Uber Cosmic Feats. Thor, Superman, WW, Surfer, Hal Jordan, Flash, Hulk, even Scarlet Witch. You can't just look at feats by themselves. You have to look at the character and what they represent, where thier powers come from, ect.
Metron of the New Gods doesn't have many showings, But becuz of who he is, what he has been shown to do, and his power source, it is reasonable to extrapolate that he can beat an opponent like Spider man.
Spawn is the Ruler of 8th Hell. Thor Rules nothing. If Hell were to go to war with Asgard, Hell would be the victor. It's universal in it's scope and importance. Spawn controls all of that power. Thor has a hard time with Sersi.
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One thing your mixing up is the ability to mimmic a power and the degree to which it can be done. The Silver Surfer can mimmic almost any feat that Mr. mxy can do. But it's the scope of the power that makes mxy trump surfer. Thor may be able to mimmic many of spawn's powers, but the far reaching effects and scope of Spawn's powers put him above Thor in ever way.
How so? They both could freeze time at one point. No difference in power there. Spawn could transmute organic material, which is impressive since no one else can do that, but not really Sky-Father.
And while Spawn has Heaven-affecting blasts, Thor has a Godblast that can damage Sky-Fathers. Who's to say which is more powerful, Exitar or Heaven's Gate?
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Thor is a little God who runs around with earth heroes. He's portrayed much like a demi God. He's not even immortal. Thor is Herald lvl. Top tier herald lvl. Spawn is a ruler of Hell. Who can call upon all the powers of said hell. This puts him at entity lvl. Above sky father. Let's just disagree and be done with it. Parallax beats Spawn. Back to the thread at hand.
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Most Gl's have not shown that power. Only two have, Kyle and hal. And in kingdom come, IT showed that A Gl could easily become Sky father lvl in power. The ring is only limited by the wearer.s will and imagination. Human beings have a need to team and be social. One reason we prolly dont' see GL's going around making thier own justice leagues.
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