Exodus explained it quite simply and to the point, some thing which I tried and missed doing in my last few post.
Gravitational potential energy is the energy that would be released if an object in a gravitational field (such as the earth's gravitational field) were allowed to fall from its current position to a given reference level (such as the surface of the earth). Equivalently, it is the energy required to raise the object from the reference level to the given height.
Still even when in orbit its molecules, still have kinetic energy, as all things do.
In that case...Atoms, Molecules, Sub Atomic particles are physical masses which vibrate(Kinetic Energy)....Energy itself doesn't do this...therefore...the Flash wouldn't be able to manipulate Stranges Energy based shields...because they're made out of Magical Energy...(Whatever that is).....likewise the Flash wouldn't be able to manipulate Chemical Energy, Light Energy, Heat Energy...etc....Well not directly anyway...
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Last edited by ExodusCloak on Oct 31st, 2006 at 04:53 PM
Let me explain for you, since you seem to think otherwise, by captured I refer to gravitational potential, For example, a book lying on a table has greater gravitational potential energy than the same book on the floor, but less than if it were on top of a tall cupboard. To raise the book from the floor to the table, work must be done, and energy supplied. (If the book is lifted by a person then this is provided by the chemical energy obtained from that person's food and then stored in the chemicals of the body.) Assuming perfect efficiency (no energy losses), the energy supplied to lift the book is exactly the same as the increase in the book's gravitational potential energy. The book's potential energy can be released by knocking it off the table. As the book falls, its potential energy is converted to kinetic energy. When the book hits the floor this kinetic energy is converted into heat and sound by the impact.
Even when "captured" gravitationaly or chemically, it still has kinetic energy, as its molecules do, as all things do.
And why wouldn't he able to manipulate the shields, mass or not? That made no sense, In order for some thing to have "mass" it needs to be made up yes thats right, atoms, corks, strings, etc.
And all atoms, corks, strings, are charged and moving, thus they all have kinetic energy, this is what Flash manipulates.
So magical or not, if it has mass or energy, he can manipulate it.
I still see nothing wrong with the second quote, all energy is kinetic, in that all mass is made of Atoms, Corks, Strings, which are all moving and charged, which means they are all kinetic.
So basically your trying to win this by claiming its magical? Your trying to pull the biggest PIS card in comics?
Well I do have a counter for it, Flash has manipulated magical energy, and magical beings before, such as Diana (WW), both taking and giving kinetic energy from and to her.
Energy has no mass..it's not made up of Atoms, Quarks etc...
All Atoms are moving and therefore possess Kinetic Energy....But an Energy Shield...is just energy...no mass involved....and no Kinetic Energy involved...
How to put it...
For instance Flash shouldn't be able to manipulate Kinetic Energy in a vaccum....because there's no matter to steal KE from...nor would he be able to manipulate a Light Beam in a Vaccum....
Stranges shields are just Energy not physical matter which vibrates....
It's like light...there is no kinetic energy present in light...therefore Flash won't be able to do anything to light energy....
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Last edited by ExodusCloak on Oct 31st, 2006 at 05:03 PM
Not true on two parts, light has shown to have some mass, and secondly, if Strange's shields or projectiles has no mass then Flash could pass right through them, and thus they wouldn't be a effective shield.
You are trying to win a debate purely by claiming it is magical and thus immune to all sense and logic?
By that train of thinking, then Flash is also magical, as their is no physical explination for his powers, thus by the definition of magic Flash would also be magic, see how easy that was?
Now do please try to debate peacefuly and logicaly, if you want respect then please do show it, thank you.
False
The book never has kinetic energy unless it is moving (by defin)
And you assume all things in the marvel universe is made out of atoms or moving particles. False again. Magic is undefined and cannot be known as to what nature or the physics of it operates in.
O you silly boy, I said magical energy is still energy, and thus kinetic, thank you for being o so polite and understanding, but it seems this train of thinking of escaped your grasp, maybe you will have better comprehension next time.
You vocabulary also reflects upon your oh so polite character.
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