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Why are you worrying about screen name, it's comic book thing for your information. I was baptise last month, so my screen name has nothing to do with my salvation, I am confident where I am going, are you?


Yes. Except my confidence has basis.


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WHo the hell are you.

At 2 in the morning, this is cracking me up........lol

Oh, and I agree that historical places don't necessarily made a story true. Man, look at Washington DC. Bad example, those stories are true... embarrasment

Many of the bible stories are based on astrology which was a science at that time and paganism rituals.

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Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
The Gospel of Q exists, what it says I do not know, however there is speculation that the authors of Mathew Mark and Luke used information from that gospel or else they could have also used information from the book of Mark, because Luke and Matthew relate to that book a whole lot. I think 93% of Marks material is found in Matthew and Luke.

To Answer the question: Yes I do in fact believe the Bible is true, why?
Because it is the foundation of my faith, I believe it is the written word of God. But Above all it has stood the test of time, even with the billion critics that have tried to disprove it, the bible is still in existance and has been for almost two thousand years... not to mention the OT is older than that. The fact that there are 1000 MSS (manuscripts) that the Bible feeds off of proves it's legitimacy. (There is textual criticism there because of some slight and major changes between copies of MSS) But because the specific process the Jews had in place to copy the OT, the Law and Prophets proves it's legitimacy. (If they mispelled a word, they would have to toss out the copy and start over again and they had a process in which they would count the letters from the last letter to the center and the beginning to the center letter of the Torah and if it was wrong it was trashed)

To be honest, because the Bible has lasted so long, and how much effort is being put into it to create a genuine translation (cudos to the translators), to me, proves it's legitmacy.


The Lotus Sutra is 3000 years old and it has survived all of its critics, and is still around. So, it must also be the word of god because it has survived and has had great care taken to preserve it. Also, no one has ever proved it wrong.


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Can you prove it ?
Yep, same way I disprove God.


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Yep, same way I disprove God.


Go for it dude.


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Go for it dude.
It was made up. There is no evidence of it being true. The only people who see it as true aren't taken seriously by those who don't see it as true. There is no argument to even suggest it to be true.

You can't deny those as facts can you?


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It was made up. There is no evidence of it being true. The only people who see it as true aren't taken seriously by those who don't see it as true. There is no argument to even suggest it to be true.

You can't deny those as facts can you?


But that is not proof. I agree with you, but to prove something is very difficult when it has to do with human beliefs.


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Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
No not because so many people have written it, the fact that most of the copies are incredibly accurate to what we would consider "closest to the original" I believe the Bible is the written word of God because my faith is built upon it. My foundation is Christ's teachings and coincidently His teachings came from OT priciples. The Apostles and other writers pretty much wrote commentaries on what Jesus taught so that churches would catch the vision and stop being dumb. (no church is perfect)


Okay...why is your Faith built upon it ?


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It was made up. There is no evidence of it being true. The only people who see it as true aren't taken seriously by those who don't see it as true. There is no argument to even suggest it to be true.

You can't deny those as facts can you?



What facts prove that Love does not exist ?


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Why are you worrying about screen name, it's comic book thing for your information. I was baptise last month, so my screen name has nothing to do with my salvation, I am confident where I am going, are you?



laughing


I find it funny how you beleive Baptism will guarantee you a life in Heaven afer you die. I used to beleive that fairy tale when I was in 5th grade. I grew up since then wink


FYI...Baptism does not save you from Hell. Repentance does. Do you even know the foundations of your own religion ?


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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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I find it funny how you beleive Baptism will guarantee you a life in Heaven afer you die. I used to beleive that fairy tale when I was in 5th grade. I grew up since then wink


FYI...Baptism does not save you from Hell. Repentance does. Do you even know the foundations of your own religion ?



I've repent for my sins, how about you? Baptism doesn't save you I know that, repentance's saves you which I have done. I pray for my sins to be forgiven, and prayed for other people to come too God in my family.

My grandmother God bless her soul told me; tomorrow is never promise to you live for today because you have enough on your plate for today. Never really understand years ago, but now I do and can't wait too see my love ones again.

I know my foundation of my religion thank you. I've been born again and having complete faith in Jesus Christ my lord and savior, I believe in the word of God 100% if you don't.

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What facts prove that Love does not exist ?
The fact it was made up, the fact there's no evidence to prove it, etc.

Just read the post again. no expression

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But that is not proof. I agree with you, but to prove something is very difficult when it has to do with human beliefs.
True, but the fact it was made up is reason enough to suggest it is false.


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1.)Why do you believe in the bible?
----I believe in the Bible because it is God's book to all the nations of the world for him to show his people the way



A.) Do you believe because you were told that the bible is true at a very young age?
----I'm the son of a son of a preacher and was raised by the word of God. My grandfather served the Lord with all his mind, heart, and body. My father raised me to serve the Lord and to follow his commandments.

B.) Did you find proof the bible is true at some time in your life?
----When you read the Bible you can feel the Holy Ghost speaking to you about all the sins you haven't confused yet.

C.) Did you make a leap of faith?
----I guess?

D.) Do you believe because everyone else dose, and you don’t want to be left out?
----If I believed what everyone else believed I would believe the earth is millions of years old and that people evolved over millions of years into what we are today. I do not believe that for the word of God is true.


I used A, B, C, and D because you said they were extras


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1.)Why do you believe in the bible?
----I believe in the Bible because it is God's book to all the nations of the world for him to show his people the way



A.) Do you believe because you were told that the bible is true at a very young age?
----I'm the son of a son of a preacher and was raised by the word of God. My grandfather served the Lord with all his mind, heart, and body. My father raised me to serve the Lord and to follow his commandments.

B.) Did you find proof the bible is true at some time in your life?
----When you read the Bible you can feel the Holy Ghost speaking to you about all the sins you haven't confused yet.

C.) Did you make a leap of faith?
----I guess?

D.) Do you believe because everyone else dose, and you don’t want to be left out?
----If I believed what everyone else believed I would believe the earth is millions of years old and that people evolved over millions of years into what we are today. I do not believe that for the word of God is true.


I used A, B, C, and D because you said they were extras


How do you about some one who would answer the same way you do, but about the Koran?


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People believe in the bible because they believe in god and Jesus ,the bible gives reassurance for those who need it.

when really the only person you need to believe in is yourself!

at the end of the day no matter how much you look to god its you that chooses the decisions you make in life

weather right or wrong it was still your choice your own instincts

not the gods or the bible

yourself!


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The fact it was made up,



Where and When ?


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....the fact there's no evidence to prove it, etc


Xmarksthespot not too long ago provided evidense as to the physical aspect of the phenomena we call "love". Now are you arguing that it doesnt exist, even though there is scientific evidense to back it up ? erm


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People believe in the bible because they believe in god and Jesus ,the bible gives reassurance for those who need it.

when really the only person you need to believe in is yourself!

at the end of the day no matter how much you look to god its you that chooses the decisions you make in life

weather right or wrong it was still your choice your own instincts

not the gods or the bible

yourself!



I think you are very wise indeed smile


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----I believe in the Bible because it is God's book to all the nations of the world for him to show his people the way



Okay...can you prove God wrote it ?




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----I'm the son of a son of a preacher and was raised by the word of God. My grandfather served the Lord with all his mind, heart, and body. My father raised me to serve the Lord and to follow his commandments.



This explains everything. You were RAISED to believe what you beleive. That's why you beleive it, and no other reason is as valid as this.

Just because you were programmed into thinking a certain way, doesn't make your beleif true.




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----When you read the Bible you can feel the Holy Ghost speaking to you about all the sins you haven't confused yet.



I've read the Bible numerous times and have never felt this. Oh wait, lemme gues.....Satan is inside me, so that's probably why roll eyes (sarcastic)


Not many Christians who have read the Bible claimed to have felt this experience. Did you ever consider the possibility...wait....probability that this sensation was SELF-INDUCED ?

Take some psychology, and figure it out.


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Originally posted by sammii
People believe in the bible because they believe in god and Jesus ,the bible gives reassurance for those who need it.

when really the only person you need to believe in is yourself!

at the end of the day no matter how much you look to god its you that chooses the decisions you make in life

weather right or wrong it was still your choice your own instincts

not the gods or the bible

yourself!
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Where and When ?




Xmarksthespot not too long ago provided evidense as to the physical aspect of the phenomena we call "love". Now are you arguing that it doesnt exist, even though there is scientific evidense to back it up ? erm
By love do you mean like alot, or this special force when two people "love" eachother. The former is true but the latter is not, and what I mean when I talk about love, sorry if I never cleared that up.


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By love do you mean like alot, or this special force when two people "love" eachother. The former is true but the latter is not, and what I mean when I talk about love, sorry if I never cleared that up.



Initially, I thought you meant that Love does not exist, PERIOD.

No one truly knows what Love in its entirety is. So both our claims are not yet proven, and are therefore inadequate and only hypothetical.

No offense, but you are still 14. Experience it first, then tell me it does not exist.


Love is displayed not only throughout mankind, but throughout the animal kingdom as well. It's kind of hard for me to beleive that something so common among the animals is something we just made up.



Love, whether it be simply a chemical reaction, a force of unification, an instinct, or all of these things combined exists regardless of its most essential form.


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