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Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually its a natural route of character level testing progression.

There are people that feel that she could take either one of them out with ease. so if neither poses a challenge to her isn't it natural to come up with a tougher enemy for her to take on?


No its not, its a spite thread.

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Indeed.No way, man. No way. You're talking crazy. Storm's brain is made of lightning.


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Actually its a natural route of character level testing progression.

There are people that feel that she could take either one of them out with ease. so if neither poses a challenge to her isn't it natural to come up with a tougher enemy for her to take on?


It's spite. What people feel a character can do and what the character can actually do are two different things.

Storm has faced both of these people in battle and has yet to get a win over them. Therefore, putting both of them together against her is spite.

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It's spite. What people feel a character can do and what the character can actually do are two different things.

Storm has faced both of these people in battle and has yet to get a win over them. Therefore, putting both of them together against her is spite.
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No its not, its a spite thread.


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If it were one on one it'd be different.


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She's exponetially more powerful than the two.

The only way she would win agaisnt them is if she harnessed enough power quickly enough to one-shot them both killing them.


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Because she simply is.

She has considerably more raw power than the both of them, but for all practical purposes it won't be of practical use against th

She could possible take down Exodus the quickest ala the way she took down hulk.--simply fry his synapses with lightning, leaving Magneto.


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What the hell are arguing about? You really think that the threadstarter thinks that Storm can beat Magneto and Exodus? Cant you see the sarcasm.

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Indeed.No way, man. No way. You're talking crazy. Storm's brain is made of lightning.


Spite. You finished now?


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Storm loseserm

End of.

Also needs to be noted that Magneto has admitted himself on panel that throughout all their encounters, Storm has never even considered killing him.no expression

She's WAAAAY more powerful, but they can take he down together for the simple fact of the way their powers work and their character.

For all practical purposes, Storm is not a killer and wouldn't go all out, while they would.

The threadstarter didn't stipulate bloodlust, so she loses.


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lol

nah.

She's exponetially more powerful than the two.

The only way she would win agaisnt them is if she harnessed enough power quickly enough to one-shot them both killing them.

I don't know if she could do it quickly enough and it would most likely destroy this planet killing billions, which would make it pointless.no expression

How is she exponentially more powerful than Magneto, when her weather control powers only deflect the initial waves of a nuke that hit the magnetic force he was using to scare the world into giving him Genosha? He felt the pain of the hit, being connected to the magnetosphere, and he was still able to continue, she could not summon a wind strong enough to effect the blast so they hid in the snow. She said she could not do anything to the storm that was caused by his machinations, while the Xmen were stranded in the Arctic, hiding behind snow and debris. uncanny xmen 366

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Yea, that's cuz Magneto was in the Story.

Alone, we've seen her transcend humanity, tap the electrical potential of the entire Earth, beat god-beings that were the sum-total of their entire dimension and heal the dimension, disperse Hemisphere-sized Storms, Summon the power of the entire Galactic core(millions and millions of Stars) etc.

It's stated that she's supposed to be one the most powerful beings on planet. Magneto has stated so much on panel.

Also compunded with the fact that it never even crossed her mind to actually "go at" him for real.

Just accpet the fact that's she's considerably more powerful, but I think she loses here.......badly.no expression


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What the hell are arguing about? You really think that the threadstarter thinks that Storm can beat Magneto and Exodus? Cant you see the sarcasm.



Spite. You finished now?
What does the OPs Sarcastic nature have to do with people feeling that one on one Storm can beat them easily?

If a person feels that either one can be defeated easily then what's the next thing that person is supposed to argue for level progression?


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It's been stated on panel that Magneto is one the most powerful beings on the planet too. There are a shit load of most powerful beings on the planet in the MU. If she is so powerful (as powerful as you believe anyway) then why couldn't she use her power to deflect the force of a nuke that hit Magnetos energy sphere, causing him momentary pain? If she is so much more powerful than him, then why didn't she just use the electromagnetic energy he unleashed instead of channeling the electricity part of it from Colossus into Joseph? Surely she could have used the EM energy herself to undo the damage Magneto had caused right? confused

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You have to consider who is making those comments. erm

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What the f**k? SPITE ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Magneto wins by himself.


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It's been stated on panel that Magneto is one the most powerful beings on the planet too. There are a shit load of most powerful beings on the planet in the MU. If she is so powerful (as powerful as you believe anyway) then why couldn't she use her power to deflect the force of a nuke that hit Magnetos energy sphere, causing him momentary pain? If she is so much more powerful than him, then why didn't she just use the electromagnetic energy he unleashed instead of channeling the electricity part of it from Colossus into Joseph? Surely she could have used the EM energy herself to undo the damage Magneto had caused right? confused


Going by that same logic, if he's so powerful why does he need a machine to everything??

Just accept it. She's just more powerful.

Hell, I said she'd lose. embarrasment


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What does the OPs Sarcastic nature have to do with people feeling that one on one Storm can beat them easily?

If a person feels that either one can be defeated easily then what's the next thing that person is supposed to argue for level progression?


Do you know what the defintion of a spite thread is?


No Spite Threads

Now, a spite thread is usually considered as a thread opened to intentionally be one-sided (because the poster may not like that character, or opened to goad another person into responding, etc.). Moderators will decide if or if not a thread was made out of spite. Spite threads are NOT tolerated and will be closed, and the poster warned (or more severe consequences will be taken if that poster's been warned multiple times).


Does this thread come under the above defintion?

P.S. Whats an OP? I quoted xmarks because he was the one that started this thread.


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Yes, close this filth!


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Storm ftw smile


Nope.

She loses because she can only make the conditions for plasma possible, whereas the magic weather fairy does all the rest.


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Going by that same logic, if he's so powerful why does he need a machine to everything??

Just accept it. She's just more powerful.

Hell, I said she'd lose. embarrasment


Magnetos greatest power lies in his ability to control magnetic forces whether they are generated by him or somebody else, he used the machine to boast his powers because he is old as dirt and like Astra told Joseph powerful beings like Magneto place subconscious barriers around their powers (that's why Joseph appeared to be more powerful, he was designed to not have the blocks.), but he was still in control of the magnetic energy of the world. If Storm is all powerful (as you seem to believe) then the machine defense is crap, why couldn't her "godlike" weather witching deflect the residual blast from a nuke, or change the weather that his machinations created?

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Do you know what the defintion of a spite thread is?


No Spite Threads

Now, a spite thread is usually considered as a thread opened to intentionally be one-sided (because the poster may not like that character, or opened to goad another person into responding, etc.). Moderators will decide if or if not a thread was made out of spite. Spite threads are NOT tolerated and will be closed, and the poster warned (or more severe consequences will be taken if that poster's been warned multiple times).


Does this thread come under the above defintion?
So what you're saying is we're not allowed to geniunely or otherwise see what the limits to the faith tht a person has in a given character?

Anf you may be interested to know that its not a singular person whom thinks that she can take either of the two one on one, but a group of posters who each think that she can.

Is not the intent of ANY thread to gain responses from people? Would that not make ANY thread a spite thread under that definition?

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P.S. Whats an OP? I quoted xmarks because he was the one that started this thread.
Original Poster. The perosn who created the thread.

There have been threads where the OP has created a thread heavily obvious of their malice toward a certain character or characters, but people have managed to have a discussion on the subject without people frequently trying to disrupt and troll it by calling it a spite thread every chance they got.

Go look at the "can any mutant beat superman" thread. It's obvious from the first post that there is heavy sarcasm and malice in the thread's original intention.


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Magnetos greatest power lies in his ability to control magnetic forces whether they are generated by him or somebody else, he used the machine to boast his powers because he is old as dirt and like Astra told Joseph powerful beings like Magneto place subconscious barriers around their powers (that's why Joseph appeared to be more powerful, he was designed to not have the blocks.), but he was still in control of the magnetic energy of the world. If Storm is all powerful (as you seem to believe) then the machine defense is crap, why couldn't her "godlike" weather witching deflect the residual blast from a nuke, or change the weather that his machinations created?


Stop arguing fallacies, please.

If Thor is so powerful, then why does he not just lob magneto's head off by throwing the Mjolnir at FTL speed and be done with it??

Since it hasn't happend in an arc with Magneto, then he must not be able to throw his hammer that fast/defeat Magneto.erm

She's more powerful than them, but she loses here.


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Do you know what fallacy means? What's fallacious is just about everything you "say" about Storm. Who the hell cares about Thor?!? It is fact and on panel that Storm with all her absolute power over nature could do nothing to affect the storm created by what Magneto did to the Earths magnetic poles, she says herself "The storm is beyond my weather-manipulating power to control" When the nukes react violently to Magneto trying to "subtly, gently divert them into the upper atmosphere" Storm on the next pages says "It comes I can try to deflect the initial waves..." Then the Xmen hide in the snow because the blast is not halted. There is no fallacy in what I am "saying" I have the issue right in front of me, that's why I don't think you even know the definition of the word or you would not have used it incorrectly.

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