I did look and I saw him literally spin in circles plus it wasn't like the Flashes are trying to avoid him but before everyone starts to talk about how much faster SBP is then three Flashes actually look at the feat it didn't show SBP avoiding any of the Flashes punches or out running them.
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Um SBP doesn't need to avoid any of the flashes punches or outrun them. He can ****ing fly thru a sun and a planet and not dent. The flashes are the ones who needed to avoid planet moving, time retconning punches. And yet he was so fast the took them all of guard. And yes the pic clearly showns him blitzing the flashes. Hell he even makes fun of them and says I"m fast too and pummels them.
Ok I know your one to not take an unbiased look at something and see it in a possibley different light so I won't actually sit here and talk to you but..
The fact is the Flashes were knocking SBP backwards so they were doing something and while they were close he spun around fast. Not any to special still a good feat but nothing to prove him faster than the Flashes.
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LOL ur one to talk. WHen you can catch 3 flashes off guard with a move while they are in battle for the lives of millions of people, and they are in a serious mode, then hell yeah, your fast. get over it. It's very evident you dont' like SBP. Cuz as I read it seemed like you were trying to lesson his feats at every chance you got.
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I'm just trying to stop people from over doing his feats.
The guy caught three Flashes with a good move impressive yes I have said so where does it say SPB was ever faster than the Flashes or that he speedblitzed at all?
The fact is normal Superman can probaly tag a Flash and do the samething
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So now every time someone speed blitzed, the writers have to put it in a narrative box? that's moronic and simple. The fact that he says I"m fast too and the whirl winds are drawn as he tags them multiple times shows you that he is fast and blitzing them.
SUPERMAN can never tag flash that many times, I don't care if they were attacted at the hip. Read JLA heaven's ladder. The galactic ship that was taking planets away moved so fast that no one could react. Except flash. He ran, started the teleporter and then gave it the speed it needed for them to catch the planet capturing ship that had just taken earth. now your telling me superman who was like a statue to flash could hit flash as many times as sbp did? NOT
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Yes but the same can be said of most popular characters.
Any fight in which Supes doesn't use super speed is considered PIS(along with any instance of his being tagged by someone without super speed). That's despite the fact that people like Metallo or Toyman are able to give him a difficult time when they go against him. Anytime Flash is hit by someone other than a character like Zoom is also classified as PIS. Anytime GL or Surfer doesn't use a truckload of powers right out of the gate to take out the opposition is likewise PIS. Anytime Hulk or another popular brick is going against someone like Cap or Spidey and doesn't use a thunderclap to end the fight before it really begins is PIS as well.
But that's just the way that it is. The fact is that writers downplay abilities that give characters a significant advantage over the opposition(or simply don't familiarize themselves enough with the character to know his full range of abilities) for the sake of the comic's sales whether it's Thor or not. The only requirement is that the character has a large fanbase. That's why the rules regarding PIS are in place, they help protect the character in question from the ignorance of those writing him.
Do you think any enemies of the Avengers could even lift a fraction of Earth's weight...which would be over quintillions of tons.
Thor is that strong..yet struggles against Magneto taking his hammer or even breaking Mag's forcefield?
Thor is that strong...yet can't over power the Hulk...are you saying Hulk also has the strength now to lift planets?
Thor can't overpower Hercules...guess Hercules has planet lifting strength too.
You have to take the average showings of a character. If Spiderman generally struggles against the likes of Venom and Green Goblin, and one idiotic writer makes him easily overpower a Herald, you'd have to wonder whether that should be accepted or dismissed.
Thor has never demonstrated that he is MUCH STRONGER than any of his opponents, most who would have trouble lifting a mountain, let alone a friggin planet.
Unless you're saying Thor jobs to everyone he fights and that in reality he is hundreds of times more powerful than he is portrayed in comics
Actually Hulk has shattered something twice the size of a planet. Along with hitting the planet hard enough to knock it off orbit.
Hercules has held the planet on his back before. Heck when Thor and Herc were arm wrestling they were shown to be shaking the entire planet out of its orbit.
So yes all of those people you just mentioned have planetary moving or lifting feats
I think he has some other very good feats as well can't think of them off the top of my head though.
Plus just as Superman is documented as holding back most of the time so does Thor.
Let's say you're fighting someone who can bench 100 pounds, let's just say you can bench 1000 pounds (im just using benching for strength)
so you're 10x stronger
even if you held back, you would almost effortlessly be able to restrain that person
Now let's say Thor and Hercules are capable of these planet level strength feats...a planet is at least more than 1000x the weight of a mountain
Now Hulk at base level can lift a mountain and not more...so Thor and Herc are at least 1000x stronger than Hulk (or any enemy that Thor struggles against...Ultron, Magneto, etc)
This would be akin to you fighting someone who can barely lift a 5 pound dumbell. thus, even if they were half asleep, with one armed tied behind their back, they should have no trouble overpowering Hulk as they are 1000x stronger
Thor should overpower pretty much all of the Avengers enemies with ease....even holding back, as how many of them can even lift a mountain, which is less than 1/1000th the weight of earth
For one thing Hulk has shatter with a punch something twice the size of Earth and his pnch has knocked Earth off its orbit. Hulk is alot stronger than just a mountain lifter.
Secondly Superman should never get hit by half the peopel who don't really possess Superspeed but he does.
THe Flash should never get tagged by anyone but they do why because they are described as holding back. So yeah Thor doesn't just BFR half of the Avnegers enemies becuase he holds back more than people think.
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