Tha C-Master
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Which I find BS for anyone, there are new forms being made all the time, people like me make their own forms using their knowledge of other forms. Noone can know all forms.
He's a ninja, Samuria, agent, etc. I don't see where that equates to knowing all forms for he, Cap, or anyone else.
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Apr 5th, 2007 02:33 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Which I find BS for anyone, there are new forms being made all the time, people like me make their own forms using their knowledge of other forms. Noone can know all forms.
He's a ninja, Samuria, agent, etc. I don't see where that equates to knowing all forms for he, Cap, or anyone else.
I suppose he could become an expert in a huge number to martial arts and then extrapolate from them to know many others.
Many types of martial arts are redundant and exist in various places as well.
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Apr 5th, 2007 02:36 PM
Tha C-Master
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I agree. It's the same thing with languages, but you still won't know every single language known to man. In some parts of the world the language changes every couple of miles.
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Apr 5th, 2007 05:03 PM
The Pict
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The handbooks are a bit messed up. X-23 has only been around for a couple of years and I doubt she merits being a level 6 fighter.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Pict
The handbooks are a bit messed up. X-23 has only been around for a couple of years and I doubt she merits being a level 6 fighter.
Everyone wants their character to be the best, there is very little middle ground these days
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Symmetric Chaos
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I agree. It's the same thing with languages, but you still won't know every single language known to man. In some parts of the world the language changes every couple of miles.
Well he would be wrong in a literal sense but still superior to just about anybody. Add in the fact that he's probably seen some movies from which he can replicate feats and you have someone who can just about claim to know every martial art in the world (honestly who's gonna check up on that).
Since he'd certainly have training in every well known martial and various obscure ones the odds of him discovering a martial art which he doesn't know anything similar is virtually nil.
IMO as far as MarvelEarth goes he probably does know every martial art he'll ever encounter. Sure he doesn't have real grounding for such a claim as knowing every martial art in the world but in practice he's just about the same as someone who really does.
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Apr 5th, 2007 09:24 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Which I find BS for anyone, there are new forms being made all the time, people like me make their own forms using their knowledge of other forms. Noone can know all forms.
He's a ninja, Samuria, agent, etc. I don't see where that equates to knowing all forms for he, Cap, or anyone else.
why it BS again? He been around for over a 100 years. He trained all over the world. He been trained by the best h2h fighters of the time. It likly he knows every style he will ever encounter.
Apr 6th, 2007 07:55 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well he would be wrong in a literal sense but still superior to just about anybody. Add in the fact that he's probably seen some movies from which he can replicate feats and you have someone who can just about claim to know every martial art in the world (honestly who's gonna check up on that).
Since he'd certainly have training in every well known martial and various obscure ones the odds of him discovering a martial art which he doesn't know anything similar is virtually nil.
IMO as far as MarvelEarth goes he probably does know every martial art he'll ever encounter. Sure he doesn't have real grounding for such a claim as knowing every martial art in the world but in practice he's just about the same as someone who really does.
Apr 6th, 2007 07:55 AM
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Cable woulds be one of the most skilled fighters.Hell he is.
He studied History records,fought in every timeline,spent 60+years fighting every day......
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Apr 6th, 2007 08:00 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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why the hell did you even bring up cable.........no offense, but was any one even talking about cable.......
Apr 6th, 2007 08:07 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by The Pict
The handbooks are a bit messed up. X-23 has only been around for a couple of years and I doubt she merits being a level 6 fighter.
hse been trained since he was but a bady in combat.........she ahs more combat training then most hero's get in a life time.........
Apr 6th, 2007 08:08 AM
Martian_mind
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by capt it up
why the hell did you even bring up cable.........no offense, but was any one even talking about cable.......
They were talking about skill and experience.Cable was relevant.
Also Cap,I don't think you should about people bringing up irrelevant Characters lol.
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Apr 6th, 2007 09:00 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Martian_mind
They were talking about skill and experience.Cable was relevant.
Also Cap,I don't think you should about people bringing up irrelevant Characters lol.
No they were talking about wolverine and such knowing all thoses styles and then out of no were you bring up cable.......
I hardly ever bring up characters first I just correct others when they talk about another character........
either way I did not care I just found it a little random that cable was brought up when the thread is about kitty pryde.
dam and no one really answered my question any ways. My threads always get so off topic.........
Apr 6th, 2007 09:03 AM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable woulds be one of the most skilled fighters.Hell he is.
He studied History records,fought in every timeline,spent 60+years fighting every day......
still less expereince then wolverine lol
Apr 6th, 2007 09:05 AM
The Pict
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by capt it up
hse been trained since he was but a bady in combat.........she ahs more combat training then most hero's get in a life time.........
Trained by very few people.
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Apr 6th, 2007 02:42 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by capt it up
still less expereince then wolverine lol
Untrue.
Cable lived, slept, ate, and breathed combat. Day by day since birth, he was in the heat of battle.
Wolverine spent decades in the wilderness, and even when he worked as a CIA operative or Samurai, he hardly spent every single day in battle. Cable's probably seen much more in his sixty years than Wolverine's seen in three times that.
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Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Soljer
Untrue.
Cable lived, slept, ate, and breathed combat. Day by day since birth, he was in the heat of battle.
Wolverine spent decades in the wilderness, and even when he worked as a CIA operative or Samurai, he hardly spent every single day in battle. Cable's probably seen much more in his sixty years than Wolverine's seen in three times that.
actaully it is true.
When he was in the CIA he run missions after missions. Whne he was a samuria he trained constantly. Fighting Ogun often. When he was on world war one, two, vietnam, korea and so on he was fighting day in and out. He has vastly more experience in combat and training. Also he did not spend decades in the woods he spent like 5 years tops.
Not to mention the fact he has all of Ogun expereince...........
Apr 6th, 2007 10:21 PM
Martian_mind
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Cable is a telepath and has read the minds of hs solidiers and knows their skills.
Plus Cable has been back in time and would know several long-dead Ma's.
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Apr 7th, 2007 06:21 AM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by capt it up
she did not beat logan in a fair fight.....logan would not kill her......
Are you talking about powers or no powers?
And to answer your question she's about a 4 or 5 out of 7 in terms of skills
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Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cable is a telepath and has read the minds of hs solidiers and knows their skills.
Plus Cable has been back in time and would know several long-dead Ma's.
he takes his soldiers skills now? really and this has been shown?
again speculation. Yes he may know some dead MA that however does not mean he has there knowledge. Also logan knows many dead MA as well and so does his master who lived over a 1000 years..........
in terms of experience wolverine> cable
Apr 7th, 2007 08:41 AM
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