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Endless Mike
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Doubtful. What's his best feat, beating up Ichigo? Everyone does that.


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Doubtful. What's his best feat, beating up Ichigo? Everyone does that.
not speaking of that and only a hand full of people have beaten him at all

i'm talkin about his reaction time and the strength of some of his attacks


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Yes, compared to smashing an asteroid twice the size of earth, holding a planet together, or thunderclapping with the strength of a nuclear arsenal. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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WWH would stomp him flat.

I have watched Bleach and read the manga. Grimmjow would get his ass kicked, plain and simple.

His durability is nothing compared with Hulk's, Kaname Tôsen sliced off his arm and destroyed it with a simple gesture, and he was unable to regrow it of his own will, they needed Orihime to help grow it back.

Hulk has taken point blank nuclear blasts and remained unphased, and that was a weaker form than WWH. WWH has survived Blackbolt's whisper (and possibly scream) at point blank range and jumped back in stronger than ever. Where in Bleach do you see nuclear explosion level blasts? At most the Bleach characters do low level nuclear explosion level attacks, you would need much stronger than that to KO WWH.

In regards to Grimmjow being too fast, that's a falacy that Hulk cannot catch speedsters. He has caught characters that can move incredibly fast, for example Silver Surfer, Quicksilver, etc.. He has caught a tank mortar shell with his hand. He may not move super fast, but his reflexes are extremely good for his size and he is extremely accurate, possibly due to his Banner level intellect being buried somewhere inside. As Cho mentioned during Hulk 110, the Banner portion of his mind is still in there somewhere, running constantly calculations on everything, which is what stops him from killing so many people during his fights.

Aside from those granted by his zanpakutô, Grimmjow has demonstrated no unique personal abilities, so there is nothing to demonstrate a unique ability which would allow him victory here. We know that Hulk has an innate resistance to even mystical abilities as well if he's angry enough; he's one of the few characters to shrug off the crimson bands of Cytorrak. The most Grimmjow can hope for is a superficial wound to Hulk.

WWH in a curbstomp, 10/10.

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All Hollow have the ability to do bala, cero and their own version of flash step. Something that the Hulk could never counter. As far as Tousen goes, you must either be retarded or simply ignoring his growth in power. It's obvious that he's far above captain level, seeing as Grimmjaw could tear through any captain, while Tousen is obviously faster and stronger than him.

Nor do you seem to be capable of telling cutting damage from blunt damage apart either. While a punch from the thing wouldn't do much damage to namor, Wolverine cutting his arm off certainly would. While Grimmjaw doesn't posess the ability to regrow lost limbs, it was obvious that he would've been capable of reattaching it. Hence why Tousen had to incinerate it.

It's also common knowledge that most Espada and Shinigami posess superhuman recuperative abilities.

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Doubtful. What's his best feat, beating up Ichigo? Everyone does that.


He killed and devoured several thousand Ajankuuru rank hollows?


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All Hollow have the ability to do bala, cero and their own version of flash step. Something that the Hulk could never counter. As far as Tousen goes, you must either be retarded or simply ignoring his growth in power. It's obvious that he's far above captain level, seeing as Grimmjaw could tear through any captain, while Tousen is obviously faster and stronger than him.

Nor do you seem to be capable of telling cutting damage from blunt damage apart either. While a punch from the thing wouldn't do much damage to namor, Wolverine cutting his arm off certainly would. While Grimmjaw doesn't posess the ability to regrow lost limbs, it was obvious that he would've been capable of reattaching it. Hence why Tousen had to incinerate it.

It's also common knowledge that most Espada and Shinigami posess superhuman recuperative abilities.



He killed and devoured several thousand Ajankuuru rank hollows?

And fodder hollows matter why?no bleach character is beating wwh its that simple.

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Yes, compared to smashing an asteroid twice the size of earth, holding a planet together, or thunderclapping with the strength of a nuclear arsenal. roll eyes (sarcastic)
we were just talking about ms marvel a second ago and now you want to go back to hulk fine

all the strength in the world means nothing if you cant hit anything with it
hit and run tactics ftw


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And fodder hollows matter why?no bleach character is beating wwh its that simple.


Right...


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WWH would stomp him flat.

I have watched Bleach and read the manga. Grimmjow would get his ass kicked, plain and simple.

His durability is nothing compared with Hulk's, Kaname Tôsen sliced off his arm and destroyed it with a simple gesture, and he was unable to regrow it of his own will, they needed Orihime to help grow it back.

Hulk has taken point blank nuclear blasts and remained unphased, and that was a weaker form than WWH. WWH has survived Blackbolt's whisper (and possibly scream) at point blank range and jumped back in stronger than ever. Where in Bleach do you see nuclear explosion level blasts? At most the Bleach characters do low level nuclear explosion level attacks, you would need much stronger than that to KO WWH.

In regards to Grimmjow being too fast, that's a falacy that Hulk cannot catch speedsters. He has caught characters that can move incredibly fast, for example Silver Surfer, Quicksilver, etc.. He has caught a tank mortar shell with his hand. He may not move super fast, but his reflexes are extremely good for his size and he is extremely accurate, possibly due to his Banner level intellect being buried somewhere inside. As Cho mentioned during Hulk 110, the Banner portion of his mind is still in there somewhere, running constantly calculations on everything, which is what stops him from killing so many people during his fights.

Aside from those granted by his zanpakutô, Grimmjow has demonstrated no unique personal abilities, so there is nothing to demonstrate a unique ability which would allow him victory here. We know that Hulk has an innate resistance to even mystical abilities as well if he's angry enough; he's one of the few characters to shrug off the crimson bands of Cytorrak. The most Grimmjow can hope for is a superficial wound to Hulk.

WWH in a curbstomp, 10/10.
hulk's combat speed is roughly on par with that of spidy, but he lack's his agility ans is nowhere near as nimble so he can manage to tag a speeder once or twice but he cant keep up with them that's like saying he can tag flash ok we can believe it happening once but in a non pis enviroment that's about it. i'm not sayin any one attack would ko hulk but it will do him damage you talk about wwh's durability feats yet rockslide and think were able to make him bleed she hulk made him bleed his durability right now is not where it's suppose to be and why take away grimmjow's zanpakuto abilites in this fight? they are an extension of himself it's like sayin lets take away hulk's strength, not gonna happen


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And fodder hollows matter why?no bleach character is beating wwh its that simple.


Aizen would completely curbstomp WWH. I forgot to mention this in the Aizen vs. supes thread, but Aizen does have access to tech that makes the user intangible and imperceptible even to those who can see Shinigami. Plus keep in mind all of the Arrancar have tough enhanced external skin that would make Luke Cage's look weak


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Originally posted by Endless Mike
If he took Torch's nova flame, a cero will do nothing to him.

Hulk consistently tags people faster than anyone in Bleach could ever hope to be.

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^All that needs to be said about the Hulk's speed


You have no ****ing idea how fast Bleach characters are.

Nor do you seem to possess half a brain, so you can join your buddy Quanchi on my ignore list.


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Aizen would completely curbstomp WWH. I forgot to mention this in the Aizen vs. supes thread, but Aizen does have access to tech that makes the user intangible and imperceptible even to those who can see Shinigami. Plus keep in mind all of the Arrancar have tough enhanced external skin that would make Luke Cage's look weak

Whats that I smell?bullshit thats right,iv read the manga more times then you have buddy and aizen has nothing like that,wwh punches aizen and aizen dies,and the one who doesnt posses half a brain is you llagrok,no bleach character is faster then north star or silver surfer and hulk tages people like that all the ****ing time,go beat off to more bleach.

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You have no ****ing idea how fast Bleach characters are.

Nor do you seem to possess half a brain, so you can join your buddy Quanchi on my ignore list.


Was that really necessary? Wouldn't it be a lot easier and a lot kinder to have posted "Well, that's nice, but these Bleach characters are a lot faster than the people you showed because...."

Then, you'd look like the better debater, and wouldn't have had to simply insult another poster and seem like you were trying to avoid the point entirely.


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Whats that I smell?bullshit thats right,iv read the manga more times then you have buddy and aizen has nothing like that,wwh punches aizen and aizen dies,and the one who doesnt posses half a brain is you llagrok,no bleach character is faster then north star or silver surfer and hulk tages people like that all the ****ing time,go beat off to more bleach.


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Also she is clearly walking through solid objects.

Any to be honest, any instance of hulk being able to tag full speed SS is complete and total PIS, by the way does anyone know what Northstar's speed is considered to be?


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Quote: You're existence will only be recognized by us arrancar.
Also she is clearly walking through solid objects.

And has it ever been used in combat?what would it do?not much,no arrancar has shown the raw power needed to put wwh down,you could be invisible all day and throw ceros all day and its not going to put the hulk down,the only way gj can win this is if he bfr's hulk with the tiny negacion cube and even then we dont know if it will work on non arrancar.

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hulk is not a super speeder he cant tag people like quick silver and northstar, once maybe twice but that's about it if that was the case hulk would be speed blitzing people and that aint gonna happen especially when people like spider-man much much slower than quicksilver can land plenty of blows on hulk without him getting touched in return hell hulk's barely caught spider-man and you cant even say he does it consecutively


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hulk is not a super speeder he cant tag people like quick silver and northstar, once maybe twice but that's about it if that was the case hulk would be speed blitzing people and that aint gonna happen especially when people like spider-man much much slower than quicksilver can land plenty of blows on hulk without him getting touched in return hell hulk's barely caught spider-man and you cant even say he does it consecutively

spiderman has precog.

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spiderman has precog.
precog doesn't always help he still has to be fast enough to avoid

mike is saying that hulk's combat speed is the same as northstar ans shows him beating up a robot that's standing still


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