The real question is, why on earth is Jacen considered top tier? Because he had his 5 year peace quest? I mean they're making him somewhat equal to Luke already, and this guy hasn't done a damn thing. On the level of Sidious? Give me a break. He looks like a scared, underaged female.
Erm, yes, Yoda was fighting his saber...what's he using to slice through the battle droids and deflect bullets? You're probably confusing separate instances.
I didn't say he did. I said he lifts one without any effort.
Hell, the Dark Underlord used Jar'Kai as a style to fight with two Ancient Sith Swords and if you've seen pictures of the man, he's positively corpselike and emaciated
The swords the Dark Underlord and Tavion used were absolutely nothing like the ones we saw Sadow and Kressh swinging around. The DU's blades looked like vibroswords from KotOR, and Tavion's was hidden in a staff; the sizes aren't even comparable to the older variants. Not to mention that the material the blades are crafted from are obviously completely different. The thinner Sith swords were made of metal, while the ancients' weapons looked crystalline.
And now, when did Luke ever lift a blade like Sadow's? That's not to say that he couldn't, but considering that after the decline of the ancient Sith we never see their brand of swords again, there'd be nothing impressive about him raising a blade akin to those of the Dark Underlord or Tavion.
I was right, he jumps off the cliff, where they can't attack him, before using the Force to drop a huge chunk of rock and snow on them. Chapter 15, near the end, watch it.
And the DU's swords are described as Ancient Sith swords. Key word being 'ancient.' We've only got one picture of the Underlord and none of him in combat.
My point being, that the idea that they weigh hundreds of pounds is faulty at best when I can't think of any two depictions of Sith Swords that resemble the other.
At one point, Luke lifts up an ancient Sith sword to inspect it.
It looks more like some sort of alchemically create crystal more than metal - it even shatters like it.
And I suppose it's impossible that there could be more than one kind of 'ancient' Sith sword. Seriously, the DU's sword, and the weapons of Sadow and Kressh. Not at all the same thing.
Hundreds of pounds? Hardly. I can see them being extraordinarily heavy compared to later melee weapons, but triple-digits is ludicrous.
You just said that. But you didn't provide a source or scan, which is what I'm asking for. Not that it matters, because it likely wasn't one resembling those in GAotS.
Yes, and it also slipped out of his scepter, which if you hadn't noticed isn't very thick.
I'm aware of the fact. I initially brought it up some time ago. It's also pretty much hard to get a proper idea as, again, they change with every single depiction-look at Freedon Nadd's swords that he gives to Satal...logically, he'd had gotten them from Naga..
We have no idea if that's actually one of the swords the DU wields. When that picture was done, it wasn't even known to be the DU.
And again: None of the depictions of the Sith swords are the same thing:
-GAOTS: Crystalline
DLOTS and TFNU: Long, broadsword/claymore blades. Same depiction in the weapons and technology guides
KOTOR- pike weapons with blades on both ends
There're probably more, but I can't really recall them.
Erm, I was the one saying just that...
I'll have to check with the person who owns the source, but I believe it was in a 'SW Gamer' story or from one of the Hyperspace articles.
And also, wouldn't a solid sword like the one pictured in The guide to Weapons and Tech be logically heavier than the ones in GAOTS?
Hardly that thick, no. Rather long and large. And Tavion lugs it about one handed, not compensating for extra weight when it's inside the scepter-and I doubt Marka Ragnos's personal weapon is a shoddy piece of craftsmanship.
Well, she's probably a Dathomiri, with emphasis on physical abilities, but strong enough to carry around a huge sith sword in a large scepter that Marka Ragnos wielded, one handed, with no strain if it's that heavy?
I'm sure with the whole alchemy detail, they took weight into account
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