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quanchi112
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Originally posted by Air Legend
That's because he became the avatar. If you want to know more about the avatar go to Mr Master's hierarchy on the comic books forum.

ok this argument is ridiculous. anyways when we bring writers into this. we should never do this and keep it to comic book characters only.

i kjnow this guy is but he represented a writer.
but lets get real here. thanos was supreme and didnt represent a real person. he was a fake character. he showed he was supreme by his feats and actions also.

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ok this argument is ridiculous. anyways when we bring writers into this. we should never do this and keep it to comic book characters only.

i kjnow this guy is but he represented a writer.
but lets get real here. thanos was supreme and didnt represent a real person. he was a fake character. he showed he was supreme by his feats and actions also.

The Kirby Avatar was a character.

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Actually the Kirby avatar on panel was creating marvel stories. And The Kirby Avatar was ON PANEL. As in he existed in the comics world. There for he is a character and you have to tell us who wins since Thanos was supreme and can beat everyone. LOL. Actually the kirby avatar was MORE powerful than Thanos. He had the power of the writers ABOVE the marvel omniverse.

jimstarlin would argue with u
what is this kim starlin vs jackkirby now.

what is this battle of the writers here.

thanos could not lose. he proved it on panel.

Sep 8th, 2007 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Kirby Avatar was a character.

fine ill pull this. thanos was supreme after the fact. avatr was no where to be found and will make no more appearances. thanos was supreme after the avatar.

end of story.

Sep 8th, 2007 06:03 PM

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jimstarlin would argue with u
what is this kim starlin vs jackkirby now.

what is this battle of the writers here.

thanos could not lose. he proved it on panel.

The Kirby Avatar was shown on panel above the omniverse and actually drawing it into existance. He also showd that there was another whom he had to confer with known as the Collaborator. either of whom beat Thanos into oblivion with thier pencil or pens. Thanos cannot beat the Kirby Avatar. he isn't above the omniverse like The KA was. he loses. And thus he is NOT Supreme. I have destroyed your argument and you have no WIGGLE room.

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ok this argument is ridiculous. anyways when we bring writers into this. we should never do this and keep it to comic book characters only.

That's what the avatar was- A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER. The real artist can't literally put himself in the comic so he has to draw a comic book character representing his power

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i kjnow this guy is but he represented a writer.

Represented the writerS of Marvel.

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but lets get real here. thanos was supreme and didnt represent a real person.

Well since Thanos became everything the Almighty was and since the Almighty was the avatar and the collaborator, Thanos did represent the power of the real artists and writers.

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he was a fake character.

That's redundant lol. Just say he was a comic book character.

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he showed he was supreme by his feats and actions also.

Yes and the Avatar and collaborator were supreme as well.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
The only thing outside of Thanos' influence,
was Marvel's Heaven (Marvel studios in the Real World)

Question. When you mean Marvel's heaven you mean the real studios not the heaven shown in the comic books right?

Sep 8th, 2007 06:14 PM

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So Death and Adam Warlock were in Marvel Studios in the real world?

Nah,

they were in realms Beyond Space & Time which Thanos didn't touch.

Not cause he couldn't, but because they were OVERLOOKED:

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Thanos' absorption was not calculated, it was out of control:

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Thanos' frenzy made him absorb all of Time & Space in Marvel.
Then his anger subsided when a Void was left.

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Thanos also stated that he could wipe out Warlock if he wanted:

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Question. When you mean Marvel's heaven you mean the real studios not the heaven shown in the comic books right?

exactly the point. The studio shown in the comic was yet and still above the marvel omniverse.

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Nah,

they were in realms Beyond Space & Time which Thanos didn't touch.

Not cause he couldn't, but because they were OVERLOOKED:

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Thanos' absorption was not calculated, it was out of control:

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Thanos' frenzy made him absorb all of Time & Space in Marvel.
Then his anger subsided when a Void was left.

.................................................................................

Thanos also stated that he could wipe out Warlock if he wanted:

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Sounds a bit contrived as there is no on panel evidence to support this theory. The truth of the matter is, the only on panel evidence to support why thanos over looked who he did, is becuz he was manipulated.

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He was basically making fun of master.

Which is why he was called a dumbass.

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exactly the point. The studio shown in the comic was yet and still above the marvel omniverse.

I don't think the studio was above the omniverse because it still within the comic book world. The studio represented the real world studio but the studio in the comic book wasn't the real world studio because you can't literally put the real studio in a comic book, hence why you have to draw it.

I'll just wait for what Mr Master has to say on this.

Sep 8th, 2007 06:40 PM

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Question. When you mean Marvel's heaven you mean the real studios not the heaven shown in the comic books right?

Yea.

That Marvel Heaven depicted in FF#511 is obviously a drawing studio
where Marvel Comics are being developed.

Only place where actual Marvel Comics are being developed
is in Marvel Studios in the Real World.

And yea, it's obviously not a "Real" place,
just a Representation of a "Real" place.

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Sounds a bit contrived as there is no on panel evidence to support this theory.

Interesting, I thought I just posted it.

But then again, I've posted many, many times the scans depicting Thanos as,
the God of the Omniverse, the Almighty God, Toaa/God withIn the Omniverse,

and still you say Thanos wasn't supreme, Thanos wasn't God.

So I'm not surprised you see something different here aswell.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The truth of the matter is, the only on panel evidence to support why thanos over looked who he did, is becuz he was manipulated. [/B]

That's absolutely false.

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Originally posted by Air Legend

Well since Thanos became everything the Almighty was

and since the Almighty was the avatar and the collaborator,

Thanos did represent the power of the real artists and writers.

That's simple and true.

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Sep 8th, 2007 06:47 PM

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alright i see where all of this is going. while thanos may have represented the artists and so did kirby then if we must bring real world shit in here its a stalemate and becomes writer vs writer. which is ridiculous. on panel thanos was supreme and proved it on panel. bottom line is on panel thanos has proven he cant lose to any comic book character outside a real writer.

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alright i see where all of this is going. while thanos may have represented the artists and so did kirby then if we must bring real world shit in here its a stalemate and becomes writer vs writer. which is ridiculous. on panel thanos was supreme and proved it on panel. bottom line is on panel thanos has proven he cant lose to any comic book character outside a real writer.

Thanos had no power over the omniverse. The Studio that was drawn where kirby sat was shown in FF to be beyond the Marvel omniverse. So marvel in effect created a super flous place. The Kirby Avatar is above thanos with the heart any day, just like DC's presence Sits behind the viel out side of the DC omniverse. Thanos was Supreme within the Marvel verse that he destroyed. Yet he was not God. He wasn't in full control and he never sat high and looked low. Kirby Avatar for the win.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos had no power over the omniverse. The Studio that was drawn where kirby sat was shown in FF to be beyond the Marvel omniverse. So marvel in effect created a super flous place. The Kirby Avatar is above thanos with the heart any day, just like DC's presence Sits behind the viel out side of the DC omniverse. Thanos was Supreme within the Marvel verse that he destroyed. Yet he was not God. He wasn't in full control and he never sat high and looked low. Kirby Avatar for the win.

sorry but thanos happened afterwards and was retocnned into supreme. no mention of kirby avatar. so thanos repalced him as supreme when he took the heart. thanos has more feats.

wink

gotcha nver

ps go chargers.

good luck with rex grossman.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos had no power over the omniverse.

Thanos had all the power over the Omniverse.

What Thanos did not have was power beyond the Omniverse, where "Heaven" is.

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The Studio that was drawn where kirby sat was shown in FF to be beyond the Marvel omniverse. So marvel in effect created a super flous place.

True.

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The Kirby Avatar is above thanos with the heart any day,

I agree.

Although pinning THOTI against "Kirby avatar" is pointless.

Because "Kirby avatar" represents (yes on panel)
something Beyond any and all other depictions in Marvel Comics.

God/Toaa represent the Artists & Writers, so how can any Other drawing win?

Exactly, it's impossible.

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Thanos was Supreme within the Marvel verse that he destroyed.

True, Thanos was Supreme in the Omniverse.

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Yet he was not God.

Thanos WAS God.

Thanos was everything the Kirby avatar could've been in the Omniverse.

Thanos was givin the power of the Kirby avatar,
but again, WITHIN the Omniverse.

In other words,

think of THOTI as a manifestation of the Kirby avatar withIn the Omniverse.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He wasn't in full control and he never sat high and looked low.

Of course he wasn't, Thanos is a drawing in a Comic book.

The Writers and Artists will always be in control of what their little pictures do.

But again,

THOTI is the basically the manifestation of the power
of the Artists & Writers in Marvel comics.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kirby Avatar for the win. [/B]

Jim Starlin & Al Milgrom vs their creation (a Drawing) Thanos/THOTI

See how silly that is.

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