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The only thing I like from them is "F.uck The World", for the obvious reason that it's hilarious. laughing out loud

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Thought that was a Turbonegro song? Same name n all that I assume.

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Originally posted by Impediment
True, but I feel it was a cop out to the whole Dark Carnival aspect. Not that I was a "believer", but I acknowledged it. This is me, speaking as a staunch atheist.

Well, as an atheist it would make sense that you wouldn't like it. And F*ck the World is one of their better songs, but even it has a deeper meaning. People often misunderstand this song. In it, Violent J curses virtually everything, high and low, absurd and plausible, saying "f*ck" 93 (or more) times. The point of the song comes in at the very final phrase, after mindless cursing of everything under the sun, then J brings it all together in the very final phrase of the song... "and f*ck Violent J". The point of the song being that you can curse everything in the world, but it the end it doesn't even matter.

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Wow that's so deep.... roll eyes (sarcastic)

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Well, as an atheist it would make sense that you wouldn't like it. And F*ck the World is one of their better songs, but even it has a deeper meaning. People often misunderstand this song. In it, Violent J curses virtually everything, high and low, absurd and plausible, saying "f*ck" 93 (or more) times. The point of the song comes in at the very final phrase, after mindless cursing of everything under the sun, then J brings it all together in the very final phrase of the song... "and f*ck Violent J". The point of the song being that you can curse everything in the world, but it the end it doesn't even matter.

Compared to

''To see a World in a grain of sand,
And Heaven in a wild flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour. ''*

*An actual religiously themed message.

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Sep 21st, 2007 03:51 AM

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Yeah it seems to me if you wanted a religious message you'd find something better than two retards with filthy mouths/minds to deliver it to you. Don't drink the kool aid man.

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Personally, I don't know why people hate ICP so much. Musically I perfer them over a lot of other rappers. Lyrically they talk about dumb horror, midnless killings, necrophilia then turn around and rapp against drug use, wife beating and preach human harmony. Well in my opinion...it's not not that bad considering other rappers (that people find respectable) just talk about "cheddar", "bitches/hoez", "bling", "capp'n niggaz" and make up dumb words like "crunk" and "sho' shizzle". I mean really, sometimes I think people just hate ICP for the sake of hating them.

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Personally, I don't know why people hate ICP so much. Musically I perfer them over a lot of other rappers. Lyrically they talk about dumb horror, midnless killings, necrophilia then turn around and rapp against drug use, wife beating and preach human harmony. Well in my opinion...it's not not that bad considering other rappers (that people find respectable) just talk about "cheddar", "bitches/hoez", "bling", "capp'n niggaz" and make up dumb words like "crunk" and "sho' shizzle". I mean really, sometimes I think people just hate ICP for the sake of hating them.

...or because their musical talents are questionable at best?

In other words they suck.

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...or because their musical talents are questionable at best?

In other words they suck.

Well that can be said about a lot of rappers. What makes ICP any worse?

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Nothing. we are discussing ICP not other rappers.

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Nothing. we are discussing ICP not other rappers.

Well, you have to bring a standard or gague to judge by when you talk about "musical talent". You brought up their lack musical abilities, so I pointed out that a lot of rappers lack musical ability.

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Originally posted by Pezmerga
...or because their musical talents are questionable at best?

In other words they suck.

ICP make their own lyrics, Shaggy2Dope makes the beats(with Mike E. Clark), Shaggy is a good DJ, and Violent J can play guitar.

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That doesn't really refute what he said.

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How many rappers do you know that can do all that? Also, ICP are self made, going from making music in a basement to having a multi-artist record label.

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How many rappers do you know that can do all that? Also, ICP are self made, going from making music in a basement to having a multi-artist record label.

That doesn't make them good.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That doesn't make them good.

-AC

They IMO are. wink

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
They IMO are.

Yes, but them doing what you said does not mean they are good.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, but them doing what you said does not mean they are good.

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IMO, it does. wink

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Originally posted by Violent2Dope
IMO, it does.

So if Britney Spears played instruments and produced her own music, and it sounded the same as it does now, you'd say she's good?

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So if Britney Spears played instruments and produced her own music, and it sounded the same as it does now, you'd say she's good?

-AC

It won't happen.

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