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Originally posted by braz
Yeah, the mud would actually work for a little bit to be realistic, but not as long as it did in the movie. It wouldve worked maybe long enough for the Predator to look around and not see him. Im surprised he didnt even see ONE single bit of red, which I think is a little false.

And that Predator imo could at least hold his own in h2h against a Terminator, because they actually seemed quite slow in their movements, even though they were throwing eachother through walls and crap, and I think the wristblades would be effective at maybe severing some limbs or w/e.

Btw, thanx DM for clearing that up, the Predators got a shot here then.

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Originally posted by Kurash
he doesnt have to dodge, first off predator would not know that terminator is in fact a cyborg, he would assume he was a human based on the heat from his skin. Since he would think hes human he might fight him differently, not going for the kill and just attempting to cripple the human and then attack hand to hand like he did with Carl Weathers.

You have no proof the cannon from the first movie would go through the terminator since all it did in that movie was go through flesh at very best. A bullet can do that and weve all seen what bullets do to a terminator. In fact Arnold got hit in the chest with the shoulder cannon from the Predator and all it did was knock him on the ground. It didnt go through him, it didnt even knock him out, it just knocked him backwards.

Durability wise that Predator got hurt by exploding gunpowder and was crushed by a log. He has also shownn to be hurt by bullets. I think this puts Terminators durability leagues ahead of the Predators.

In T2 Terminator says "I see everything." Human eyes have seen a Predator while cloaked, even in the first movie. A marine spotted him from hundreds of feet away. I guarentee if a Terminator was looking for him in scan mode he would find him too.

That is why

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Originally posted by quanchi112
and a should cannon blast also tore right through jesse ventura. arnold was the hero and thats why he lived. terminator stands there and lets things hit him. while the predator is to agile and quick to lose to an unmoving object like the terminator.

ps did u see the size of the log. it didnt kill the predator either.

predator is a lifeform so hes more fragile than the terminator who is machine. but predators elusiveness and agility coupled with the terminators just stand there and take it mentality would get him smoked in no time.

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Originally posted by Kurash
unmoving object is a strong word for a being like the terminator who has definately shown the capability of moving from one place to another

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Originally posted by quanchi112
terminator still doesnt try to dodge gunfire. predator would destroy him in no time.

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Originally posted by Kurash
thats better, but i still disagree, terminators are smart, they dont move from bullets cause bullets have no effect, i would bet they would seek cover if they detected a blast capable of one shotting them

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Originally posted by Barbarian Shams
That my friend is called ignoring reality, I mentioned in the Blade vs Pred fight that this could never happen in reality because Arnie's bodyheat would've warmed up the mud, making the whole "mud hides heat" thing totally useless. Preds arent so frail to be human level durable, they can take immense abuse themselves.

But those things Darth Martin listed, were mostly blunt force, and human small-arms weapons aren't quite on the same scale as alien weaponry that could easily decap a terminator with a single swipe, or a spear that could puncture the terminator's ribcage all the way to its precious CPU. Granted a terminator can survive more, but it cant function with its head remove courtesy of a well-placed blade swipe or a fullpower Plasmacaster blast shot to the head.

But if this was Wolf with the uber advanced weaponry and fighting prowess, I would give him 10/10 no questions asked, but since this is the first Pred, I'll give him at least 6/10 or more for wins. Terminator going by what others says gets 5/10 depending on how the Pred approaches this. H2H is out of the question once he realizes how pointless it really is. That's when the gloves come off and he utlitizes the Plasmacaster at maximum power to obliterate the T-800 to dust.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
the t1000 would be a better match but i dont see arnold as being as fast as the upgraded model.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
I was saying if they got into a slugfest(blunt force) the T-800 would take the majority. They are stronger then the average pred and way more durable. Granted the Preds weapons would probably slice right through it no problem but the machine is not just gonna stand there while the Yautja slices him. The xenomorphs don't. What's to stop the Terminator from disarming the creature's plasma caster like that one xeno did in AvP. Also, the Preds armour is very durable. However, the pred in the first movie had no armour, just hunting mesh. That's a BIG factor considering the T-800's knowledge of weapons and super-marksman aim.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
And no the T-1000 would not be a better match for the Yautja's considering their plasma weaponry.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
No he can't, he can only form"knives and stabbing weapons". Turning into you avg. Elementary school teacher isn't gonna help. His edged weapons won't penetrate the armour.

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Originally posted by Darth Martin
He can do that sure but hows it gonna help.

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Originally posted by braz
Central American jungles.


Predator from Predator 1 vs T-800 from T-2.

Arnold has: AK-47 and a shotgun

Predator has: plasma caster, wrist blades, cloak, biohelmet, medicomp and retractable spear.

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Originally posted by sapphiremouse
LOL, how stupid this is........you cant even get your subject right. why you have arnold with his ak-47 and shot gun when its entitled...... Predator vs. T-800. you dont know your movies and characters. Terminator in the 2nd film is a T-1000 not 800, and Arnold is a model 101... NOOB!!!

I see you took away the most powerful weapon a Predator has, its fore-arm nuclear bomb. If you didnt know its standard equipment for a Predator, LOL......NOOB! what are you like 10 years old?

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Originally posted by sapphiremouse
LOL, how stupid this is........you cant even get your subject right. why you have arnold with his ak-47 and shot gun when its entitled...... Predator vs. T-800. you dont know your movies and characters. Terminator in the 2nd film is a T-1000 not 800, and Arnold is a model 101... NOOB!!!

I see you took away the most powerful weapon a Predator has, its fore-arm nuclear bomb. If you didnt know its standard equipment for a Predator, LOL......NOOB! what are you like 10 years old?

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Originally posted by sapphiremouse
LOL, how stupid this is........you cant even get your subject right. why you have arnold with his ak-47 and shot gun when its entitled...... Predator vs. T-800. you dont know your movies and characters. Terminator in the 2nd film is a T-1000 not 800, and Arnold is a model 101... NOOB!!!

I see you took away the most powerful weapon a Predator has, its fore-arm nuclear bomb. If you didnt know its standard equipment for a Predator, LOL......NOOB! what are you like 10 years old?