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BlackJackal
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Peter knowing how to use his powers makes ALL the difference in the world to this one. I'm trying to recall but given the events in the first 2 episodes of the new season, does Peter also have the Haitian's ability to empty a person's head ? He could erase the surfer's entire life and leave him a drooling vegetable.


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Peter knowing how to use his powers makes ALL the difference in the world to this one. I'm trying to recall but given the events in the first 2 episodes of the new season, does Peter also have the Haitian's ability to empty a person's head ? He could erase the surfer's entire life and leave him a drooling vegetable.
no unforetunately, I dont think they've met yet....acually they probably have...maybe thats why peter does't have his memories!....that kinda make sense right?

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Surfer wins.
this is spite.

we've seen Hiro use the time stopping powers and they are local in effect. hell, in the last episode Hiro couldn't even prevent a murder, because he couldn't react fast enough with his powers.

now given +human+ reaction and processing limitations, no way is Peter going to be able to trap Surfer in suspended time.

Surfer's CA will alert him to ALL Peter's powers, from such a vast distance away (in space AND time) that Peter will not even know Surfer's approaching.

Furthermore, Surfer can go back in time, albeit not with anything like the ease with which Hiro does it but, it is there as a power nonetheless.

so Surfer could just go back in time and fight a different (weaker) version of Peter, if he so desired).

lastly, there's the simple observation that NOTHING Peter can do (power/force/energy-wise) could HURT the Surfer.

so even if he somehow got the drop on him with the time stopping, he would be buggered as to what to do to him... eventually Surfer would just re-enter normal time (as the effect wore off) and murder Peter.


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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
well actually that armbar thing made perfect sense, BP absorbed his cosmic energy, silver surfer was powerless when bp did that

Wow. What the hell?


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Wow. What the hell?
thats how Bllack panther beat the silver surfer

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Surfer wins.
this is spite.

we've seen Hiro use the time stopping powers and they are local in effect. hell, in the last episode Hiro couldn't even prevent a murder, because he couldn't react fast enough with his powers.

now given +human+ reaction and processing limitations, no way is Peter going to be able to trap Surfer in suspended time.

Surfer's CA will alert him to ALL Peter's powers, from such a vast distance away (in space AND time) that Peter will not even know Surfer's approaching.

Furthermore, Surfer can go back in time, albeit not with anything like the ease with which Hiro does it but, it is there as a power nonetheless.

so Surfer could just go back in time and fight a different (weaker) version of Peter, if he so desired).

lastly, there's the simple observation that NOTHING Peter can do (power/force/energy-wise) could HURT the Surfer.

so even if he somehow got the drop on him with the time stopping, he would be buggered as to what to do to him... eventually Surfer would just re-enter normal time (as the effect wore off) and murder Peter.
speaking like the peters precognition and mind reading will give him all possile scenarios and ways to prevent them when ifghitng against the surfer

plus hiros incident was PIS in order to show the samurai had healinng, he's stopped time before bullets hit him and before arrows hit someone else easily

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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
thats how Bllack panther beat the silver surfer

There was no energy drain at that point. BP just overpowered Surfer.


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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
black panther managed to defeat the surfer...but he can beat anyone I think

question though, I know taking away SS boards doesn't take away all of his power immediatly like in the movie, but isn't that like his recharge, without it would his strength begin to go down?


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well actually that armbar thing made perfect sense, BP absorbed his cosmic energy, silver surfer was powerless when bp did that


Say what?

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Peter knowing how to use his powers makes ALL the difference in the world to this one. I'm trying to recall but given the events in the first 2 episodes of the new season, does Peter also have the Haitian's ability to empty a person's head ? He could erase the surfer's entire life and leave him a drooling vegetable.


He's not a better telepath or reality manipulator than the likes that the Surfer's resisted on occasion after occasion.


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Originally posted by Validus
There was no energy drain at that point. BP just overpowered Surfer.


No he didn't.

The Surfer was stunned with a mixture of surprise and disgust when he witnessed McDuffie performing Oral Sex on T'Challa right in front of T'Challa's wife.


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There was no energy drain at that point. BP just overpowered Surfer.
..yes there was, he cam in with his machine took away his cosmic energy, then gave it to the human torch, silver surfer then tried to fight him without his powers and lost

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..yes there was, he cam in with his machine took away his cosmic energy, then gave it to the human torch, silver surfer then tried to fight him without his powers and lost

I know about all that but that happened after the armbar fiasco.


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I know about all that but that happened after the armbar fiasco.
..yes and Iwas telling you how he beat silver surfer

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..yes and Iwas telling you how he beat silver surfer

Yes and I was telling you Surfer was at full power there.


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Yes and I was telling you Surfer was at full power there.
not when BP knocked him out

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Why do people act like time manip. is something Surfer always uses? confused

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not when BP knocked him out

Really? That isn't what you said before which is what we were discussing.


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Really? That isn't what you said before which is what we were discussing.
my fault did they fight twice? sorry, I think mixed the two together, right now I'm talkin gabout the one where black panther steals his power cosmic then knocks him out....anyone who is super smart is unbeatable in the marvel universe

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my fault did they fight twice? sorry, I think mixed the two together, right now I'm talkin gabout the one where black panther steals his power cosmic then knocks him out....anyone who is super smart is unbeatable in the marvel universe

Well you're certainly right about that.


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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
speaking like the peters precognition and mind reading will give him all possile scenarios and ways to prevent them when ifghitng against the surfer

plus hiros incident was PIS in order to show the samurai had healinng, he's stopped time before bullets hit him and before arrows hit someone else easily

Surfer also possess precog; albiet limited/localized.. Telepathy is within his reach as well, somethin his shown far better feat than Peter.. All this done through CA..

Peter ability to Stop time is not going to work against someone who can shield/manipulate chronal energies, all this Surfer has done so on panel..
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Peter also have the Haitian's ability to empty a person's head ? He could erase the surfer's entire life and leave him a drooling vegetable.

Something requiring mental abilities (telepathy), unfortunately Peter or Haitian for that matter is nowhere close to Surfers mental prowess..
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Originally posted by Merlyn
Why do people act like time manip. is something Surfer always uses? confused

Well his done/used it a few times (7-8x in past series), it is within his powers set.. There is no need to ? it..

Ohh! That BP saga is fall of Pis..


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I wouldnt say taht was PIS..he blasted with the full intent on kill the BP, something he would've normally done, especially considering he though bp was just going for a head on tackle

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