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EvilAngel
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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Ner'Zhul isn't omniscient.. Not even close..

Illidan > Arthas in plain close-combat 9/10

He has immense Pyschic power, it's close enough, plus how exactly do you explain all the event going exactly as LK anticipated?

That i can't make heads or tails of.....YOU SEE ARTHAS BEAT ILLIDAN IN A WEAKENED STATE! WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU ON ABOUT?!!?!

Oct 13th, 2007 06:21 PM

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He has immense Pyschic power, it's close enough, plus how exactly do you explain all the event going exactly as LK anticipated?

That i can't make heads or tails of.....YOU SEE ARTHAS BEAT ILLIDAN IN A WEAKENED STATE! WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU ON ABOUT?!!?!

Ner'Zhul got a vast mind, yes.. His immense mental powers do give him a cunning hand indeed, but it's not even near omniscient.. His mind was increased in his frozen state.. He's most likely one of the smartest ((if not THE smartest)) entity in the Warcraft universe, but he isn't omniscient.. To be omniscient, you are supposed to know as good as everything..

Ner'Zhul didn't know that his soul would spill out when he launched his sword trough the frozen barrier and Azeroth.. He anticipated the events due a vast mind, and not omniscience..

He can see trough all scourge on Azeroth.. That's how he knows what's going on..

However, not sure why we're discussing Ner'Zhul so closely.. It's Arthas that does the fighting..

Arthas was regaining his powers if you dont remember that part.. And as I said, Illidan flawed.. He bared his defense and Arthas found an opening, cutting him down..

Why the caps, btw? It wont help you get any points trough..

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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Ner'Zhul got a vast mind, yes.. His immense mental powers do give him a cunning hand indeed, but it's not even near omniscient.. His mind was increased in his frozen state.. He's most likely one of the smartest ((if not THE smartest)) entity in the Warcraft universe, but he isn't omniscient.. To be omniscient, you are supposed to know as good as everything..

Ner'Zhul didn't know that his soul would spill out when he launched his sword trough the frozen barrier and Azeroth.. He anticipated the events due a vast mind, and not omniscience..

He can see trough all scourge on Azeroth.. That's how he knows what's going on..

However, not sure why we're discussing Ner'Zhul so closely.. It's Arthas that does the fighting..

Umm, it's stated on WoWwiki Ner'zhul has vast psychic powers, thats why he was able to anticipate most events

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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Arthas was regaining his powers if you dont remember that part.. And as I said, Illidan flawed.. He bared his defense and Arthas found an opening, cutting him down..

Why the caps, btw? It wont help you get any points trough..

No, but i was like wtf, unlike you i don't control myself ;p

Arthas > Illidan in blade-play, tried and proven, that simple.

Oct 13th, 2007 06:30 PM

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Umm, it's stated on WoWwiki Ner'zhul has vast psychic powers, thats why he was able to anticipate most events

No, but i was like wtf, unlike you i don't control myself ;p

Arthas > Illidan in blade-play, tried and proven, that simple.

Sure, it says on WoWwiki that Ner'Zhgul has vast psychic powers (( I dont know, I haven't looked that up )) but what does it matter? This is Arthas fighting, and not Ner'Zhul..

And as I said, Illidan flawed.. He made a misstake..

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Originally posted by Darth Extecute
Sure, it says on WoWwiki that Ner'Zhgul has vast psychic powers (( I dont know, I haven't looked that up )) but what does it matter? This is Arthas fighting, and not Ner'Zhul..

And as I said, Illidan flawed.. He made a misstake..

Well LK gave him advice in other events if i remember the game correctly

Albert Einstien:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

Oct 13th, 2007 06:36 PM

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Well LK gave him advice in other events if i remember the game correctly

Albert Einstien:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

LK gave him advices of things he knew was occuring.. Because he can see trough the eyes of every dead being on the planet..

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Originally posted by Remindme
Speed: Ganon

Reflexes: Arthas

Versatility: Arthas is on the Lich Kings side, who controls all of the undead in Azeroth except a minor band lead by sylvannas. Ganon can't comapre to that

Reach: opps sorry must've missed it. Ganon has better reach then. But it's not long enough to provide him with a decont advantage

Swordskill: Illidan.........not exactly sure, probably around 1,200 years or more. I didn't mean to make it abc logic, but rather, you see that fight, and Arthas shows awesome skill in it.

Magic Skill: Is that so? i want proof, the power part of the triforce didn't create the world, it made it a livable habitat

Intelligence: I disagree, using Psychic power the LK prodicted everyone moves with perfect accuracy. Ganon mainpulated people, he didn't basically control their movements as the Lich did. He's like Sidious in the SW movies, behind the scenes from day 1

Reflexes: Ganon, despite having his sword down pointing at the ground, had the reflexes to swing his sword up and block Link's quick slashes, and jumps to the side of Link's blows and does a counter stab the moment he lands.

Versatility: I agree Arthas has more control over the undead, but Ganon still has more versatility, he has a wider range of powers.

Reach: Ganon has 4-4.5' long arms, with a 6-8' long blade, that's a pretty signifigant reach advantage.

Swordskill: Then Ganon is far older. Ganon shows great skill with his blade as well.

Magic skill: Wrong. The Power made the earth, Courage made the creatures, Wisdom made the law. On this shit com I'm using I can't get the vid, it's on youtube tho.

Intelligence: That still doesn't prove superior knowledge, oh, and it's not like Nerzhul is Arthas' mind, he can only speak to him.

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Reflexes: Ganon, despite having his sword down pointing at the ground, had the reflexes to swing his sword up and block Link's quick slashes, and jumps to the side of Link's blows and does a counter stab the moment he lands.

Versatility: I agree Arthas has more control over the undead, but Ganon still has more versatility, he has a wider range of powers.

Reach: Ganon has 4-4.5' long arms, with a 6-8' long blade, that's a pretty signifigant reach advantage.

Swordskill: Then Ganon is far older. Ganon shows great skill with his blade as well.

Magic skill: Wrong. The Power made the earth, Courage made the creatures, Wisdom made the law. On this shit com I'm using I can't get the vid, it's on youtube tho.

Intelligence: That still doesn't prove superior knowledge, oh, and it's not like Nerzhul is Arthas' mind, he can only speak to him.

To be honest Darth E. is a bigger WoW nerd (lol, joke stick out tongue

) than me so if he says Arthas loses, I don't have anything more to debate here with

Oct 14th, 2007 12:16 AM

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Reflexes: Ganon, despite having his sword down pointing at the ground, had the reflexes to swing his sword up and block Link's quick slashes, and jumps to the side of Link's blows and does a counter stab the moment he lands.

Versatility: I agree Arthas has more control over the undead, but Ganon still has more versatility, he has a wider range of powers.

Reach: Ganon has 4-4.5' long arms, with a 6-8' long blade, that's a pretty signifigant reach advantage.

Swordskill: Then Ganon is far older. Ganon shows great skill with his blade as well.

Magic skill: Wrong. The Power made the earth, Courage made the creatures, Wisdom made the law. On this shit com I'm using I can't get the vid, it's on youtube tho.

Intelligence: That still doesn't prove superior knowledge, oh, and it's not like Nerzhul is Arthas' mind, he can only speak to him.

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Originally posted by Remindme
To be honest Darth E. is a bigger WoW nerd (lol, joke ) than me so if he says Arthas loses, I don't have anything more to debate here with

Arthas holds great strength, but from what I've heard of Ganon- Arthas doesn't have much to do here.. Illidan would probably woop Ganon asses, but Arthas just doesn't have enough experience and power to comprehend.. Arthas powers are more austere than Ganons.. And he lack both the physical strength and experience that Ganon has..

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Oct 14th, 2007 09:27 AM

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How would Illidan beat Ganon?

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How would Illidan beat Ganon?

He's got a spell for everything (probably got one to wipe his own ass, because i can't see him being about to do it with the fingernails he's got)

plus his eyes see all magic.

Oct 14th, 2007 04:07 PM

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So? He can see al magic? What the hell does that do for him? Ganon doesn't even need to shit anymore.

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How would Illidan beat Ganon?

Well, by using his skills of course..

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Well, by using his skills of course..

And what makes his skills superior to Ganon's?

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And what makes his skills superior to Ganon's?

Night elf with demonic abilities too

See's all magic
Being Elven makes his more precise in combat
The blades he wields once belong to a demon stronger than Mannaroth
Huge range of magic spells
Can form anti-magic barriers
Has demon blood in his veins

Oct 14th, 2007 07:24 PM

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Night elf with demonic abilities too

See's all magic
Being Elven makes his more precise in combat
The blades he wields once belong to a demon stronger than Mannaroth
Huge range of magic spells
Can form anti-magic barriers
Has demon blood in his veins

Ganon is an elf.
Ganon wields a blade created by the Sages, which was capable of harming even him.
Has huge range of magical spells
Can imprison powerful spellcasters(Zelda) in crystal prisons, despite not being physically there
Is physically very powerful
Is very fast despite size
Is a master swordsman since youth
Is an ancient demon reborn
Wields power of an actual god
Genius

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Arthas sucks! Ganon is 10 times stronger, 10 times cooler and 10 times more of everything a man can be!

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Arthas sucks! Ganon is 10 times stronger, 10 times cooler and 10 times more of everything a man can be!

YAY! DK IS BACK!

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For now! Internet connection issues, but I am getting there

My brother will come over tomorrow and have a look at it

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For now! Internet connection issues, but I am getting there

My brother will come over tomorrow and have a look at it

Yay! I think it's been pretty much agreed Ganon wins this.

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