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Originally posted by tkitna
See, I dont agree with all that. I think people assume Piotr is a better fighter because of all his assumed training in the Danger Room, but theres no evidence on panel in my opinion. From the comics i've read during my life time, i'd easily chose Ben to win if they were to fight. Better feats.

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
XMEN # 370

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
you mean the skrull?

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
..........even if ben was a better fighter he still lacking in strength, durability, stamina and agility.


also colossus has shown mastery i judo, bo staff fighting, fencing and so forth a lot mroe well rounded then thing.


also Logan him self trianed colossus before

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Originally posted by tkitna
This is all fine and dandy, but who has he fought and beaten that is so impressive? Ben has a way better reputation and feats to back him up.

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
You're looking at this the wrong way. Compare guys who they both have fought and then look and see who did better. Gladiator, Juggernaut, Vision, Monster of Badoon and so on. Colossus fared much better against those guys than Thing did.

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
exactly snoop. hammer head dude doesnt get it that his idol thing is no where near 100

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
were does snoop agree with you at all?


snoop said colossus is better which I agree, but snoop him self knows and freely admitts thing is roughly class 90..............man your an idiot

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
is idiot the only comeback you know ? seems like its the only word you know cause im sure you hear it everyday from others. and he said ben is no where near 100 stupid

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
no it simply the most fitting insult for one who is in fact an idiot.




really were did snoop say that thing was no were near 100 tons?

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
put your specs on hammer hard head and read what he posted about ben not being able to take on the guys colossus did. thats proving hes no where near his strength. use your head if you have one

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
man your an idiot. He said colossus did better verse these people not that thing could not an did not fight them which thing did. man your just one stupid comment after another.

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
your retarted if you think ben can take on gladiator. man you need help

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
............colossus would get rect vs gladeator..........if gladeator did not jobb and even the jobbing one still beat colossus.


your reasoning is pathetic.

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Originally posted by Battlehammer
.............two heros...........?


I said ben is class 90 first off.


and jublee has a feat that is over a 100 tons..............

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
so the brat is 100 now just cause she lifted a train probably had some help from the other xmen. read the book again dude

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Originally posted by spidey-dude
so the brat is 100 now just cause she lifted a train probably had some help from the other xmen. read the book again dude