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Proposals:
Maxwell Lord to A ... 2 (Smurph, Soljer) vs. 0
Absorbing Man to C ... 3 (Smurph, Jason, Soljer) vs. 0
Galactus to A ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 4 (Smurph, Soljer, Battlehammer, hugekent)
Tyrant to A+ ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Cyber to A ... 1 (Battlehammer) vs. 0
Luthor to A+ ... 2 (Master-Borg, hugekent) vs. 1 (Smurph)
Juggernaut to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0
Carnage to A ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 3 (Battlehammer, hugekent, Soljer)
Apocalypse to B ... 1 (Master-Borg) vs. 0



Notes:

-Vote to have Galactus on the list?

1 (Smurph) vs. 1 (Bran)

-I'll add Absorbing Man soon.

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Originally posted by Master-Borg
why is Sabretooth and Bullseye in class A? confused
Sabertooth and Bullseye are better villains than Carnage. erm

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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
Sabertooth and Bullseye are better villains than Carnage. erm
ok Im a little confused by the criteria you're going by...could you define it a little more

I see Green Goblin on an equal part with Sabretooth, both are heroe's worst longtime nemesis and both have killed important people.

I vote to move Green Goblin to A.


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Originally posted by SpookySmurph
Sabertooth and Bullseye are better villains than Carnage. erm


Agreed.

Carnage and Venom 'job' way too often.

Bullseye and Sabretooth, while not as powerful as Carnage or Venom, fight with a smidgen more intelligence. wink.


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Originally posted by Master-Borg
Galactus has been outsmarted by his food many times.... confused
How many times? smile

Also, I remember a gazelle outsmarting a hyena and a cheetah...

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Do you have negotiations with your food? There's a massive difference.

Glactus considers himself superior but he's aware that his actions kill creature that build civilization and have thoughts and emotions. Yet he does it anyway. Of course he does it to save all of reality but meh.
It doesn't matter if we do or not. He's still about as far above them, as we are of other creatures.
Hell, talking in general isn't needed when the cosmic beings talk to each other.

We're aware of our actions, that we make species extinct...

To save all reality... doesn't that tell you something? That he doesn't belong in this thread...


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Originally posted by Soljer
Agreed.

Carnage and Venom 'job' way too often.

Bullseye and Sabretooth, while not as powerful as Carnage or Venom, fight with a smidgen more intelligence. wink.

yes and they get shit done

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Originally posted by Master-Borg
ok Im a little confused by the criteria you're going by...could you define it a little more

I see Green Goblin on an equal part with Sabretooth, both are heroe's worst longtime nemesis and both have killed important people.

I vote to move Green Goblin to A.
How good are they as villains? How often do they job, what have they accomplished, how do they affect the heroes they battle?

Bullseye and Sabes are two very intelligent mass murderers, who rarely job. Sabes been fighting Wolverine for centuries, and Bullseye gets into DD's head like no other (with the possible exception of Kingpin) can.

Bullseye killed Elektra
Sabertooth's been killing for centuries
Bullseye's weaker than DD but holds his own, even against Deadpool. Bullseye has the comic industry trademark of never missing... even more so than Deadshot
Sabertooth's more widely recognized than Carnage and is a much more successful killer.

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thanks for the explanation smurph


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Black Adam for A+.


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Charon (Negation) to A or A+


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What are the criterias?


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why is Luthor below The Joker no expression

He's just as ifamous, and just as deadly, he's at the top no expression

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Well Charon was the main villain of an entire comic book company (Crossgen), he conquered an entire universe, created tons of evil villains like Qztr, personally murdered and tortured lots of characters, demonstrated lots of feats, has an interesting backstory and character....

He definitely deserves a spot high on the list.


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Red Hood for A.

Not enough for an A+,but so far he's yet to fail in one of hios grand schemes,while playing Batman and GA for chumps,and taking down Black masks Criminal empire when Batman was struggling.

Malefic for A.His only loss was in a telepathic fight with Jonn,and the only thing that stopped him from killing the league was Jonn throwing him and an entire city into the sun.


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Sabertooth to B.


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Apocalypse for B


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I was thinking C but B will do. happy


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Apocalypse to F no expression






























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I dont think that Doom and Joker should be on the same level. Sure Joker and Doom have amassed vast power but most of the time they are not on the same level as Anti-Monitor. Anti-Monitor is never a street level threat he is always cosmic.


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Make that two votes. smokin'


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