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She's not top tier.

If she was, she wouldn't have needed the Gauntlets and armor to take WW place in OWAW.

When did she throw a 747?
Dude where have you been? Hypolyta is PRECRISIS wonder Woman from the JSA days. She is clearly class 100. And she threw the 7147 in Amazons attack.


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Orion 6-7/10. But he'll really have to work for it. Despite his mad dog nature, Orion's not going to fight dirty and do shit like bite Thor or rip his eyes out. He'll make it a clean fight.

Do nerve strikes and things like that work on Asgardians? They're pretty close to even in most stats, except for speed and skill, where Orion has a clear advantage.

Thor Beats Orion 7/10 in a fight.
Thor is stronger and has more skill than Orion.

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Actually the Thor feat is invalid.
This is because the Serpent's body was in ethereal form (intangible) as said in the panel. Thor was only pulling the A section (the head) of the Serpent with the boat's help.

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After reading about these two for years and getting a good feel for each one I would say with Thor without his hammer that Orion is somewhat stronger, a little faster, more skilled, a little more durable in the physical hit department.
So IMO I say Orion wins.


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Actually the Thor feat is invalid.
This is because the Serpent's body was in ethereal form (intangible) as said in the panel. Thor was only pulling the A section (the head) of the Serpent with the boat's help.

He broke the grip of the the serpant that was crushing the earth on the previous page. That alone is planetary strength feat.

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After reading about these two for years and getting a good feel for each one I would say with Thor without his hammer that Orion is somewhat stronger, a little faster, more skilled, a little more durable in the physical hit department.
So IMO I say Orion wins.

Without the mjinor?
Taking away the mjinor is taking away part of the character its self. Without the Mjinor there is no Thor.
U realize that Orion carries around a Motherbox to amp his attributes. The Mother Box is not apart of the character like the Mjinor is to Thor's character imo.
.............
I have yet to see anyone prove that Orion is stronger than Thor with actual feats... The only "feat" im hearing is Nver spwewing that Orion and Superman are physical equals based on some narration from some ressent comic.
That is hardly any proof Of Orion's physical stature smile I as well can bring up plenty of HYPERBOLE narration in Thor defense.
Oh BTW Superman>>>Orion is strength.

Show me something that Orion has done that puts him above Thor.

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Actually the Thor feat is invalid.
This is because the Serpent's body was in ethereal form (intangible) as said in the panel. Thor was only pulling the A section (the head) of the Serpent with the boat's help.


Thor feat is perfectly valid. If the serpent was intangible, it wouldn't have affected Earth, and there wouldn't be earthquakes and tidal waves as depicted on panel.


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After reading about these two for years and getting a good feel for each one I would say with Thor without his hammer that Orion is somewhat stronger, a little faster, more skilled, a little more durable in the physical hit department.
So IMO I say Orion wins.


As usual you are wrong on all accounts.


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He broke the grip of the the serpant that was crushing the earth on the previous page. That alone is planetary strength feat.


Without the mjinor?
Taking away the mjinor is taking away part of the character its self. Without the Mjinor there is no Thor.
U realize that Orion carries around a Motherbox to amp his attributes. The Mother Box is not apart of the character like the Mjinor is to Thor's character imo.
.............
I have yet to see anyone prove that Orion is stronger than Thor with actual feats... The only "feat" im hearing is Nver spwewing that Orion and Superman are physical equals based on some narration from some ressent comic.
That is hardly any proof Of Orion's physical stature smile I as well can bring up plenty of HYPERBOLE narration in Thor defense.
Oh BTW Superman>>>Orion is strength.

Show me something that Orion has done that puts him above Thor.


I hope you realize that the mother box doesn't amp Orion's strenght, but actually keeps his rage and strength in check. I love how people argue against characters they know nothing about. ANd yes, Orion is as strong as superman. He even ducked it out with a sun amped superman while the rest of the league got thier asses busted.


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Thor feat is perfectly valid. If the serpent was intangible, it wouldn't have affected Earth, and there wouldn't be earthquakes and tidal waves as depicted on panel.


IF that serpent had even weighed as much as the moon, the earth would have collapsed in on itself and tital waves would have destroyed it in an instant.


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Hey, its a comic book right? Sometimes real world physics or phenomena don't apply.

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Hey, its a comic book right? Sometimes real world physics or phenomena don't apply.

He does have a point

But at the same time if it weighed as much as the moon there would have been hella more damage

even comic artist know that

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And we know irl that something with the surface area of a square foot, couldn't possibly support something miles wide and long........but they do it anyway.


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And we know irl that something with the surface area of a square foot, couldn't possibly support something miles wide and long........but they do it anyway.


It can if it was magic...

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Rage and More aggrasive go to Orion.

Thor better keep a cool head.


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It's more than likely that it was the shift in weight that caused this. Plus, it's not like Thor has never had weak lifting feats...
Although, even if it wasn't the shift in weight, feats from that arc are some of the most overplayed pieces of garbage on the forum. Orion can't break f*cking titanium in one shrug, let alone trying to break out? What the f**k?

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Actually the Thor feat is invalid.
This is because the Serpent's body was in ethereal form (intangible) as said in the panel. Thor was only pulling the A section (the head) of the Serpent with the boat's help.
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He broke the grip of the the serpent that was crushing the earth on the previous page. That alone is planetary strength feat.

Not so. There wasn't any physical grip on the Earth. Its like pulling a human's head with a ghostlike body so that you are only pulling the human's head weight as resistance. The serpent was only magically crushing the Earth and not physically. So by pulling the Serpent's head the rest of the Serpent's ethereal body had to follow otherwise it be seperated. Now if the Serpent actually had a physical grip on the Earth (as the panel contradicts) then the Earth would both change spin and move somewhat out of orbit due to the existing friction of the Serpent while being wrapped around the Earth and Thor's pull.But the head itself was a good portion of the size of the Earth (look at the size comparisons on the panel). So Thor's feat is still a hell of a strength feat (Something I don't think Orion can do).


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Without the mjinor?
Taking away the mjinor is taking away part of the character its self. Without the Mjinor there is no Thor.
U realize that Orion carries around a Motherbox to amp his attributes. The Mother Box is not apart of the character like the Mjinor is to Thor's character imo.
.............
My bad. I thought the OP wanted Thor to fight without his hammer here. If Thor fights with his hammer then he can definitely win.
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I have yet to see anyone prove that Orion is stronger than Thor with actual feats... The only "feat" im hearing is Nver spwewing that Orion and Superman are physical equals based on some narration from some ressent comic.
That is hardly any proof Of Orion's physical stature smile I as well can bring up plenty of HYPERBOLE narration in Thor defense.
Oh BTW Superman>>>Orion is strength.
What you say makes sense. So you are probably right. I can agree that Orion and Thor are equals in strength. Or I can accept that Thor is slightly stronger.

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Not so. There wasn't any physical grip on the Earth. Its like pulling a human's head with a ghostlike body so that you are only pulling the human's head weight as resistance. The serpent was only magically crushing the Earth and not physically. So by pulling the Serpent's head the rest of the Serpent's ethereal body had to follow otherwise it be seperated. Now if the Serpent actually had a physical grip on the Earth (as the panel contradicts) then the Earth would both change spin and move somewhat out of orbit due to the existing friction of the Serpent while being wrapped around the Earth and Thor's pull.But the head itself was a good portion of the size of the Earth (look at the size comparisons on the panel). So Thor's feat is still a hell of a strength feat (Something I don't think Orion can do).


My bad. I thought the OP wanted Thor to fight without his hammer here. If Thor fights with his hammer then he can definitely win.
What you say makes sense. So you are probably right. I can agree that Orion and Thor are equals in strength. Or I can accept that Thor is slightly stronger.



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Thor feat is perfectly valid. If the serpent was intangible, it wouldn't have affected Earth, and there wouldn't be earthquakes and tidal waves as depicted on panel.


The Serpent was magically crushing the Earth. You know that ethereal(the word the panel uses) means intangible right?

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Not so. There wasn't any physical grip on the Earth. Its like pulling a human's head with a ghostlike body so that you are only pulling the human's head weight as resistance. The serpent was only magically crushing the Earth and not physically. So by pulling the Serpent's head the rest of the Serpent's ethereal body had to follow otherwise it be seperated. Now if the Serpent actually had a physical grip on the Earth (as the panel contradicts) then the Earth would both change spin and move somewhat out of orbit due to the existing friction of the Serpent while being wrapped around the Earth and Thor's pull.But the head itself was a good portion of the size of the Earth (look at the size comparisons on the panel). So Thor's feat is still a hell of a strength feat (Something I don't think Orion can do).


My bad. I thought the OP wanted Thor to fight without his hammer here. If Thor fights with his hammer then he can definitely win.
What you say makes sense. So you are probably right. I can agree that Orion and Thor are equals in strength. Or I can accept that Thor is slightly stronger.



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