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h1a8
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I did, and in subsequent follow up posts I made it clearer.
anyway, yes that's the thing isn't it... are the other universal Galactuses as powerful... is there parity amongst the Galactii or is 616's Galactus the only truly Heavy G?

I've read theories that other universes are by their very nature of a lesser order to 616, that their versions of equivalent forces and characters wouldn't stack up against 616 'originals' ... so this is part of what's up for debate in this thread.


This is what you said in the OP:"k, so All the Galactuses from all the universes in Marvel face off against all the 616 Celestials."

With that said, then this thread is impossible to debate because it is not known the power levels of the alternate Galactii. It's probably best to say in your OP "assume all other alternate Galactii are 75% as powerful as full powered 616 Galactus (or any percentage you want)". Then we can better gage and debate better.

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Galactus has too many low showings, Celestials don't.

Celestials always kick ass, Galactus only when he feels like it.

Celestials for the win.

For those who care: I always believed a Celestial > Galactus.


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For those who care: I always believed a Celestial > Galactus.


Interesting. sometimes I feel this way too. But sometimes I don't.

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Well, based on feats, Celestials should take this. Like I said, Galactus has too many low showings.


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Surprisingly the Celestials have vary little low showings.
Can anyone name or point them out?


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Well, based on feats, Celestials should take this. Like I said, Galactus has too many low showings.

Exitar's dome got smashed by Thor's Godblast. surely that's the mother of all low showings, as far as Celestial level beings go?


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Celestials and Galactus merit great debate as Utrigita, Tenebrous and myself can attest to

Those are the only low showings Celestials have. Galactus has more. The last one was getting 'hurt' and 'fed' by Gravity. It mostly Marvel's fault because they don't portray the big guy like he should. In Annihilation, he's the most powerful being. But in FF, he jobs to the FF. Go figure

Gaiman's Eternals which was great desribes Tiamut as the most dangerous thing on Earth. Speaking thru Makkari, 'he's God'


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Exitar's dome got smashed by Thor's Godblast. surely that's the mother of all low showings, as far as Celestial level beings go?

You call that a low showing ?

It took Thor everything he had - he had to reinforce Mjolnir with his power belt - and Mjolnir ended up completely broken.

Result ? Well, Exitar seemed to feel something - for a brief moment.


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You call that a low showing ?

It took Thor everything he had - he had to reinforce Mjolnir with his power belt - and Mjolnir ended up completely broken.

Result ? Well, Exitar seemed to feel something - for a brief moment.

it's a major low showing if a Celestial can in anyway shape or form be affected by Thor.
think how little the godblast achieved on juggernaut...

but it's necessary, it was Thor and he needs to biff someone...


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Galactus has too many low showings, Celestials don't.

Celestials always kick ass, Galactus only when he feels like it.

Celestials for the win.

For those who care: I always believed a Celestial > Galactus.


Goes both ways...as the celestials don't have as many high showings. The whole debate is inconclusive.

the mainstream 616 Celestials have/have had asgardians, eternals, thor, and other races as their primary adversaries.

mainstream 616 galactus has/has had thor, in-betweener, thanos, proemial gods, hunger, tyrant, FF, avengers, former heralds, ego, elders of the universe, phoenix force, and other races and cosmic beings as primary adversaries.

we can judge some of galactus' high feats compared to what he's done against other opponents who are supposedly close or equal in power.

We don't have that luxury with the celestials because they are kind of the "x-men" of the cosmic group...they have their own stories and rarely have direct (aka, direct confrontation/fights) interaction with other cosmic beings. their stories are acutely concentrated on how they confront x race of aliens or y group of people....where they're always the supreme power in a relative sense.

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Celestials are still a mystery

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Celestials are still a mystery

New series coming soon


when?

they should come up with a new celestial to replace the one called "Oneg the Prober" cause that's just vile

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We can blame Kirby for that one

New Eternals coming soon


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Also the great showings that the Celestials are performing they are performing as a team and rarely as individuals, however Galactus good showings are performed while he is hungry and he never requires aid.


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