I thought gamma radiation and cosmic radiation were basically the same, you do get gamma radiation from stars correct? I need to do some reading up on the both, but from what I thought, they were basically or nearly the same thing.
He didn't lose either. And he's faced off against some of Marvel's top characters and beat the snot out of them.
That's my main issue with this comic Red Hulk just appears out of nowhere and starts beating up some of the strongest and/or established characters. Iron Man, She-Hulk, Abomination, Hulk. And he's owned the lot of them.
Red Hulk said he was stronger than "Green" Savage Hulk, but that's not much of anything given Green/King Hulk could easily become exponentially stronger and keep becoming so, indefinitely.
Red Hulk couldn't kill Savage Hulk, which he acknowledged by the whole "change of plans" thing and how he wanted Hulk to suffer the indignity of living and knowing that he is no longer the strongest one there is...
the writing's pretty atrocious and confused, so many suspect/false steps you can't differentiate between the intentional fake-outs and the ignorant screw-ups (Hulk in a choke hold? Silver Surfer arm bar all over again , beating up a WATCHER - what next, Galactus?)...
I'm just hoping King Hulk returns and beats Red Hulk black and blue.
our sun sol gives off cosmic rays but not at the same quality as lets say a point singularity (black hole), or dwarf star does. those objects realest more and more potent hard particles. guys like the surfer get their energies from the universe itself, that means multiple sources than just our sun like superman does.
if you see an illustration of the e.spectrum x-rays have very close squiggles, that means the frequency is shorter and the movement of the particles more rapid. x- rays can travel through flesh and partly through bone, gamma rays can go through everything up to several feet of high grade concrete wrapped in steel, and even that isn't 100% safe.
cosmic rays on the other hand........................rape everything.
thats what the exosphere around earth is for.
(the aurora borialis is some of the particles that skim across the exosphere and lose some charge.)
it all depends on how ignorant Loeb plays it. in-cannon, you cannot kill Bruce, because Bruce IS the Hulk.
the way I saw it, Red Hulk wanted to "kill The Hulk" but realised that it wasn't possible. he talked of his thousands of plans for killing Hulk, but then finding it impossible to kill Hulk, he decided to change his plans and be content with being "stronger" than The Hulk.
1. Don't compare Red Hulk choking Green Hulk to the BLACK-****ING-PANTHER putting the SURFER in an arm-lock.
2. It wasn't because he couldn't kill the Hulk, it was because Rulk felt that the Hulk living knowing he wasn't the strongest there is was a fate worse than death.
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this is no slight against you ice, but this is one reason why i think sometimes the forum is counter-productive to readers who simply want to enjoy a comic.
silly that he punched out a watcher? sure. but the scene was clearly tongue-in-cheek, i thought. here though, that scene is viewed as stupid in the extreme and an obvious case of pis and more crappy writing. i actually thought it was just funny.
i've read how people are afraid the scene was canon and that hulk people will use the scene in a debate as a feat. i find that hilarious. the forum over-analyzes things and sometimes (not always) takes the enjoyment out of just reading the book. at least imo.
oh, and what's worse -- loeb having hulk slug a watcher, or starlin's having superman stalemate and actually THREATEN a source-empowered (near-infinite powered) infinity-man . . .? that race is neck-and-neck imo, but i'll also say i actually enjoyed both scenes, ridiculous as they were. (the rest of dotng was awful though . . . i felt like i was reading marvel THE END all over again -- the only series i've read in the last couple years that i thought was WORSE than dotng . . . )
Really? No offense, but for such a great debater you have the worst taste in comics
The dialogue is one of the few things that really gets to me. "Shut the f*ck up"? and pretty much ALL of Tony Stark's comments. Don't even get me started on She-Hulk's appearance.
Then there's the mass of PIS. You've got a watcher somehow just standing there proclaiming his purpose without someone even asking. Even in Civil War all he did was pretty much stand there, and most of the time no one can see him. But even if we look past those things, he somehow lost all his powers. Forget the badass that took on Aron and their galaxy busting fight, here we have a class 100 punching 'n shit!
The awesome amount of PIS and lack of consistency is what gets to me. The guy has a hell of a time dealing with A-Bomb and Green Hulk, but you can bet your ass that Skyfather characters like The Watcher and Thor are going down.
Then there's Wendigo, who's living in a pack of Wendigo's for some reason and then there's the biggest clunker of them all. Green Hulk has somehow forgotten all the events following Peter Davis' and Greg Pak's days. Now "he am the strongest" and planet Hulk never happened.
And we're got the ridiculous set up of each comic. Red Hulk fights new guy, Red Hulk wins, clue regarding who Red hulk is and finally the arrival of a new opponent.
Agreed, entirely. The scene was made to be fun. And, dumb or not, it was funny to see the Watcher laying on the ground, eyes welling up like he was about to start bawling. Further; as painfully bad as the story and dialogue has been in the recent Hulk series, it has most certainly been entertaining. The numbers of books flying off the shelf support that assertion.
And, if nothing else, Loeb's shit-but-fun writing has us talking about it. No such thing as bad publicity and what not.
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thanks. i think . . .
the dialogue DOES suck at times, but red hulk's dialogue can't be properly criticized yet because we don't know who he really is. what was wrong with she-hulk's appearance?
see pis busting thread!
and like i said, i guess i have NOT matured enough -- because i still thought it was pretty funny.
hmm, i'd say the thor battle will be a draw and in reality, we don't know what effect the attack had on the watcher since he left. so he had trouble with greeny, trouble with a-bomb . . . i read of red on the forum BEFORE i read the first 4 issues. the way everyone was talking him up, i personally was disappointed by him. minus hitting the watcher, he really hasn't done . . . anything very impressive.
the lack of planet hulk reference DID confuse me. king hulk was apparently seperated from banner at the end though, right? so perhaps an explanation will be forthcoming. there HAS to be an explanation. it's too large a discrepancy to simply not mention. now, will the explanation make sense . . .
that would be the old stephen king trick -- suck readers in with an entertaining plot, then, once you have them reading, who cares how bad the ending is . . .
the tried-and-true cliffhanger! who DOESN'T want to read the thor v red hulk book!
1. fair comparison as both are idiotic. RedHulk was attempting to sleeper hold The Hulk when we know Hulk doesn't need to breath. BP was attempting to restrain Surfer, when we know Surfer could just phase right through BP. it's idiotic and inconsistent writing, that's all.
2. not sure, Red Hulk states that he had been wanting to kill the Hulk for ages, that he had thought up thousands of ways of doing so... he gets out his pimp gun (which is, naturally, idiotic) and Hulk just chews it up. Red Hulk then has a rethink and bfr's Hulk. nothing to suggest that he could have killed Hulk, and his express statement that he'll content himself with humbling Hulk instead, to suggest that he couldn't.
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Jun 30th, 2008 12:35 AM
really Red Hulk just knocked out a freakin watcher 
, beating up a WATCHER - what next, Galactus?)...
