KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Community » General Discussion Forum » Religion Forum » Funerals for Atheists?

Funerals for Atheists?
Started by: chithappens

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (5): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
Deja~vu
Dreamer

Gender: Female
Location: Michigan

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I like it, but I would invite all the people I don't like and not tell them until after they had finished me off.. wink laughing
You want them to eat you? eek!


__________________
Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.

Old Post Apr 27th, 2008 12:05 AM
Deja~vu is currently offline Click here to Send Deja~vu a Private Message Find more posts by Deja~vu Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
chithappens
Senior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: United States

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos


I believe it was along the lines of:

A member of the audience mentioned that God brings a measure of comfort to some people.
"Just because it's comforting doesn't make it true," replied Dawkins.



I don't see the problem with this. You can flower this statement up to sound less blunt but what's the issue?


__________________
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise." - Thomas Gray

My YouTube Channel

Random Thoughts Blog *Actually being updated now*

Poetry Blog

Old Post Apr 27th, 2008 01:52 PM
chithappens is currently offline Click here to Send chithappens a Private Message Find more posts by chithappens Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Quiero Mota

Gender: Male
Location: The 623

This raises a question that I have: when an Atheist is inevitably elected to be President of the United States, and when they die, what will their state funeral be like? It certainly won't be held at the Washington National Cathedral which was the case with past presidents. And when the sitting president and former presidents give eulogies, will use of the word "God" be banned? Just something I wonder.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 05:42 AM
Quiero Mota is currently offline Click here to Send Quiero Mota a Private Message Find more posts by Quiero Mota Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Bardock42
Junior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
This raises a question that I have: when an Atheist is inevitably elected to be President of the United States, and when they die, what will their state funeral be like? It certainly won't be held at the Washington National Cathedral which was the case with past presidents. And when the sitting president and former presidents give eulogies, will use of the word "God" be banned? Just something I wonder.
I think eulogies are the personal decision of the speaker.

Also, not every president has their funeral at the Washington National Cathedral.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 07:52 AM
Bardock42 is currently offline Click here to Send Bardock42 a Private Message Find more posts by Bardock42 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
Location: Ko-ro-ba

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
This raises a question that I have: when an Atheist is inevitably elected to be President of the United States, and when they die, what will their state funeral be like? It certainly won't be held at the Washington National Cathedral which was the case with past presidents. And when the sitting president and former presidents give eulogies, will use of the word "God" be banned? Just something I wonder.


Not every Athiest is as petty as the ones you meet online. I'm sure anyone with the capacity to be elected President would have the basic level of empathy needed to not forbid people from expressing themselves at his/her funeral. Moreover by the time a professed Athiest is elected to the US Presidency I would think that religious differences would have long ceased to be any sort of issue.


__________________



Graffiti outside Latin class.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A juvenal prank.

Old Post May 6th, 2008 11:51 AM
Symmetric Chaos is currently offline Click here to Send Symmetric Chaos a Private Message Find more posts by Symmetric Chaos Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Da Pittman
"Pitt Happens"

Gender: Unspecified
Location: One for the other hand

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not every Athiest is as petty as the ones you meet online. I'm sure anyone with the capacity to be elected President would have the basic level of empathy needed to not forbid people from expressing themselves at his/her funeral. Moreover by the time a professed Athiest is elected to the US Presidency I would think that religious differences would have long ceased to be any sort of issue.
thumb up


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 02:17 PM
Da Pittman is currently offline Click here to Send Da Pittman a Private Message Find more posts by Da Pittman Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
tsilamini
Junior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location:

how is it petty for an atheist to not want religious propagandizing at their funeral?

is it petty for Christians not to want Muslim funeral services?


__________________
yes, a million times yes

Old Post May 6th, 2008 02:37 PM
tsilamini is currently offline Click here to Send tsilamini a Private Message Find more posts by tsilamini Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
It's xyz!
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: Made you look

Account Restricted

Buried directly in the ground. More eco friendly.

Alternatively, I could donate my body to science, not really bothered which one.


__________________

Bulbasaur, the original... Pepe.

Last edited by Raz on Jan 1st 2000 at 00:00AM

Old Post May 6th, 2008 03:42 PM
It's xyz! is currently offline Click here to Send It's xyz! a Private Message Find more posts by It's xyz! Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Quiero Mota

Gender: Male
Location: The 623

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think eulogies are the personal decision of the speaker.

Also, not every president has their funeral at the Washington National Cathedral.


Of course its the speaker's decision, but it would be a little awkward to say "He is with God now" if the person was an Atheist. Don't you think?

All presidential funerals were of a religious nature; at a church, with a choir, presided over by a religious official of some kind, and so on.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not every Athiest is as petty as the ones you meet online. I'm sure anyone with the capacity to be elected President would have the basic level of empathy needed to not forbid people from expressing themselves at his/her funeral. Moreover by the time a professed Athiest is elected to the US Presidency I would think that religious differences would have long ceased to be any sort of issue.


I'm not talking about ones online.

It won't be too far in the future when it happens. And I pity him/her because the media will make a big deal out of their beliefs.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 03:46 PM
Quiero Mota is currently offline Click here to Send Quiero Mota a Private Message Find more posts by Quiero Mota Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Bardock42
Junior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Of course its the speaker's decision, but it would be a little awkward to say "He is with God now" if the person was an Atheist. Don't you think?

All presidential funerals were of a religious nature; at a church, with a choir, presided over by a religious official of some kind, and so on.



Yeah, so I doubt they will do it. But it won't be banned, I'd assume.

Yeah, but not a set one. So I assume an atheist president would get the service, he or she would want.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 04:27 PM
Bardock42 is currently offline Click here to Send Bardock42 a Private Message Find more posts by Bardock42 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
Location: Ko-ro-ba

quote: (post)
Originally posted by inimalist
how is it petty for an atheist to not want religious propagandizing at their funeral?

is it petty for Christians not to want Muslim funeral services?


To forbid the simple mention of Allah's name would be petty. Turning one's own death into a soapbox for religious proselytizing is petty no matter who does it or how.


__________________



Graffiti outside Latin class.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A juvenal prank.

Old Post May 6th, 2008 07:14 PM
Symmetric Chaos is currently offline Click here to Send Symmetric Chaos a Private Message Find more posts by Symmetric Chaos Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
Location: Ko-ro-ba

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It won't be too far in the future when it happens. And I pity him/her because the media will make a big deal out of their beliefs.


As long as we're at a point where Americans are a) more concerned with religion than issues and b) many define their morals via religion I simply do not see a professed Atheist being elected to such a high office.


__________________



Graffiti outside Latin class.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A juvenal prank.

Old Post May 6th, 2008 07:16 PM
Symmetric Chaos is currently offline Click here to Send Symmetric Chaos a Private Message Find more posts by Symmetric Chaos Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
tsilamini
Junior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location:

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
To forbid the simple mention of Allah's name would be petty. Turning one's own death into a soapbox for religious proselytizing is petty no matter who does it or how.


ok, I'm in total agreement

I must have misunderstood


__________________
yes, a million times yes

Old Post May 6th, 2008 07:16 PM
tsilamini is currently offline Click here to Send tsilamini a Private Message Find more posts by tsilamini Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Quiero Mota

Gender: Male
Location: The 623

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
As long as we're at a point where Americans are a) more concerned with religion than issues and b) many define their morals via religion I simply do not see a professed Atheist being elected to such a high office.


If you haven't noticed, we have a woman and a black guy running for President. So why is an Atheist so far-fetched?


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 08:41 PM
Quiero Mota is currently offline Click here to Send Quiero Mota a Private Message Find more posts by Quiero Mota Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Bardock42
Junior Member

Gender: Unspecified
Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If you haven't noticed, we have a woman and a black guy running for President. So why is an Atheist so far-fetched?


According to official polls there are 50% women in the US. 13% Blacks plus a big ass guilt trip in their favour. But only 5% Atheists.

That could be a reason. Though, I don't disagree with you. It is possible that one becomes president in the near future.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 08:51 PM
Bardock42 is currently offline Click here to Send Bardock42 a Private Message Find more posts by Bardock42 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Da Pittman
"Pitt Happens"

Gender: Unspecified
Location: One for the other hand

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If you haven't noticed, we have a woman and a black guy running for President. So why is an Atheist so far-fetched?
Because atheist are worse than Satan worshipers wink

If an Atheist does run I’m pretty sure they would have to run under the Democratic ticket, the religious supporters on the Republic side wouldn’t support a non-believer.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 08:52 PM
Da Pittman is currently offline Click here to Send Da Pittman a Private Message Find more posts by Da Pittman Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
Location: Ko-ro-ba

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Bardock42
According to official polls there are 50% women in the US. 13% Blacks plus a big ass guilt trip in their favour. But only 5% Atheists.


Essentially my reasoning.


__________________



Graffiti outside Latin class.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A juvenal prank.

Old Post May 6th, 2008 08:54 PM
Symmetric Chaos is currently offline Click here to Send Symmetric Chaos a Private Message Find more posts by Symmetric Chaos Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Quiero Mota

Gender: Male
Location: The 623

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Essentially my reasoning.


That's also my reasoning; its 2008 and people are starting to get over 50's era preconcieved notions. At one time Blacks were 3/5th's of a person, women had no job besides being barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, and Athiest were seen as tools of the devil. Thngs change.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 09:12 PM
Quiero Mota is currently offline Click here to Send Quiero Mota a Private Message Find more posts by Quiero Mota Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Da Pittman
"Pitt Happens"

Gender: Unspecified
Location: One for the other hand

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's also my reasoning; its 2008 and people are starting to get over 50's era preconcieved notions. At one time Blacks were 3/5th's of a person, women had no job besides being barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, and Athiest were seen as tools of the devil. Thngs change.
Well considering that 4/5 of the world population believes in religion I think that it will be a long time before you see an Atheist in the White House.


__________________

Old Post May 6th, 2008 09:18 PM
Da Pittman is currently offline Click here to Send Da Pittman a Private Message Find more posts by Da Pittman Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King

Gender: Male
Location: Ko-ro-ba

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That's also my reasoning; its 2008 and people are starting to get over 50's era preconcieved notions. At one time Blacks were 3/5th's of a person, women had no job besides being barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, and Athiest were seen as tools of the devil. Thngs change.


Glass ceiling
This

We're not going to have an Atheist president for a long time.


__________________



Graffiti outside Latin class.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
A juvenal prank.

Old Post May 6th, 2008 09:59 PM
Symmetric Chaos is currently offline Click here to Send Symmetric Chaos a Private Message Find more posts by Symmetric Chaos Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 12:27 PM.
Pages (5): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 »   Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Community » General Discussion Forum » Religion Forum » Funerals for Atheists?

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.