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Zamp
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QFT. I quit after hitting purple belt inside of a year - because I was awesome - and then realizing that it was relatively useless to me.


I tested to either one above brown or one above purple (I can't remember which one is higher) and then quit: I just had to get one belt higher than my older brother.


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And Gideon, I'm curious as to what belt or dan you are in TKD. Labeling yourself as "accomplished" would suggest that you're fairly high up.


"Relative," you Jew. And I was a brown belt when I quit for good a couple of months ago. As far as sparring goes, I'm a god. As far as forms and actual technique go, I suck more cock than your mother. Which is to say, a lot.

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Master Crimzon
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QFT. I quit after hitting purple belt inside of a year - because I was awesome - and then realizing that it was relatively useless to me.

I'm interested in eskrima, personally, but as far as functionality goes you can't really get much better than western boxing and muay thai, with a little bit of judo or jiu-jitsu thrown in. The latter two would be more useful for gaining an understanding of leverage so that you can apply your own knowledge to standing situations; going on the ground in an actual fight, where chances are there're multiple people present, is stupid.


Muay Thai is- from what I know of it- definitely the best 'practical' martial art. Boxing is, in general, the best form of street-type fighting, because when you get into an actual confrontation, your best bet is using the simplest fighting method conceivable- it's generally the fastest and most efficient. A punch to the nose is probably better than a complex grab/throw/arm-breaking technique, at least until you're an uber black belt.

Fighting's about hurting the other guy, not looking fancy. And it doesn't get better than Muay Thai and similar stuff.

That being said, though, karate is still freakin' awesome, even if half the stuff we learn can't exactly be executed in a practical confrontation.

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Most fights tend to end in wild punches. Hell, my master (not Publius, notice the lowercase 'm' -- he's not nearly as dangerous) told us all -- in broken English -- that one should always seek the practical solution for a fight: use the environment and go for the groin. Honor is a myth.

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Ultimate Vader
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Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Muay Thai is- from what I know of it- definitely the best 'practical' martial art. Boxing is, in general, the best form of street-type fighting, because when you get into an actual confrontation, your best bet is using the simplest fighting method conceivable- it's generally the fastest and most efficient. A punch to the nose is probably better than a complex grab/throw/arm-breaking technique, at least until you're an uber black belt.

Fighting's about hurting the other guy, not looking fancy. And it doesn't get better than Muay Thai and similar stuff.

That being said, though, karate is still freakin' awesome, even if half the stuff we learn can't exactly be executed in a practical confrontation.


Hm? What makes you say that? Kumite doesn't agree with you, you know.

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Where's BOOG? I'm kinda interested in the job.
In florida.

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Master Crimzon
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Most fights tend to end in wild punches. Hell, my master (not Publius, notice the lowercase 'm' -- he's not nearly as dangerous) told us all -- in broken English -- that one should always seek the practical solution for a fight: use the environment and go for the groin. Honor is a myth.


I had a fight with this guy at my class. More wrestling than anything, really. We were pretty much at a lock, so my masta told me to crush his balls. I had a little dignity left, so I just choked him, but yeah, the idea is that the simplest things often cause the most damage.

Vader, in kumite, the most employed technique is the simple 'punch n' slide' movement; bend your knee, reach forward, and hit the other guy in the gut. Second to that is kicks, usually to roughly shoulder area.

Most movements are fast, simple, and efficient; only the top-tier kinda guys employ fancy movements that actually work.

Besides, if this guy comes at you on the street, you're not going to bother with complex and artsy movements.

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Hm? What makes you say that? Kumite doesn't agree with you, you know.


jeet kune do is

and Bruce Lee is the best xD

big grin

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Tkd sucks, go for muay thai and then murder BOOG.

thats ur opinion.. other ppl are entitled to their opinions also. I personally think tkd is better than karate and kung fu is better than tkd. just imo.

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Originally posted by Master Crimzon
I had a fight with this guy at my class. More wrestling than anything, really. We were pretty much at a lock, so my masta told me to crush his balls. I had a little dignity left, so I just choked him, but yeah, the idea is that the simplest things often cause the most damage.

Vader, in kumite, the most employed technique is the simple 'punch n' slide' movement; bend your knee, reach forward, and hit the other guy in the gut. Second to that is kicks, usually to roughly shoulder area.

Most movements are fast, simple, and efficient; only the top-tier kinda guys employ fancy movements that actually work.

Besides, if this guy comes at you on the street, you're not going to bother with complex and artsy movements.


Hm... In my country, kumite doesn't work like that. There are spinning kick, fake punch, double-kick, jump kick, even grab and lock and even more.

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thats ur opinion.. other ppl are entitled to their opinions also. I personally think tkd is better than karate and kung fu is better than tkd. just imo.
Dude, Iv seen in newspaper reports about TKD blackbelts being mauled to death by a thug on the street as well as a lady, with 7 years of TKD experience getting brutally raped by another thug and then murdered afterwards.

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Master Crimzon
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Hm... In my country, kumite doesn't work like that. There are spinning kick, fake punch, double-kick, jump kick, even grab and lock and even more.


Sure, we can use spin kick, fake punch, and jump kick. It's just that it's really freakin' intense here, so we usually take the fastest and most efficient course of action.

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Muay Thai is- from what I know of it- definitely the best 'practical' martial art.


Correct.

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Fighting's about hurting the other guy, not looking fancy. And it doesn't get better than Muay Thai and similar stuff.


Certain Martial Arts include both, actually. Looking fancy and kicking the shit out of the other guy at the same time is t3h Pwnz0r. And possible. Although, one can only do that if he/she's become extremely experienced in not one, but several Martial Arts.


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Ultimate Vader
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What if a TKD black belt fights John Cena? Who do you think will win?

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Depends if its a "real" black belt, if it is one of those ub3r experienced masters, cena is going to have his roided muscles pop and he is going to be having secks with his own thighs.

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Master Crimzon
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Originally posted by Cpt. Valerian
Correct.


Muay Thai is badass. If I were to have my martial arts experience erased and have to choose to start off fresh, I'd probably take Muay Thai.



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Originally posted by Cpt. Valerian
Certain Martial Arts include both, actually. Looking fancy and kicking the shit out of the other guy at the same time is t3h Pwnz0r. And possible. Although, one can only do that if he/she's become extremely experienced in not one, but several Martial Arts.


Yeah, imagine if a guy whirlwinds another dude's head off. Practical + fancy = win.

I've done 9 years in karate and I still can't beat another guy while looking fancy. And it's not because I suck (I actually got number two in a national tournament).

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Col. Valerian
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Notice how I said one needs to be experienced in not one, but several Martial Arts to be able to do so. Trust me. I know so because I've done so. I've done many different Martial Arts since I'm four, and even though I still have much to learn, I do consider myself a master.


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Master Crimzon
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So... should I call you Sensei Valerian?

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Vorpal Ruin
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I've done many different Martial Arts since I'm four


Why would you call him sensei? He is only 4.


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What the f**k? It can be said like that...

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So... should I call you Sensei Valerian?


Of course.


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