That's YOUR interpretation and opinion, there's no actual evidence to support it. What's shown on panel is far to similar to dismiss without proof.
It doesn't matter if was on his board unless you're claiming that his arm-speed/reflexes are dulled when he's off his board... in which case you're going to need to post evidence to support the claim.
He was reacting/dodging at lightspeed against Deathurge, thus he was using speed in combat. And he was standing toe to toe with Lunatik, he wasn't on his board.
Anyway, how about that Battlezone ? I'm sure the Mods would judge if it would end our repeat performances...
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Superman obviously fights faster than surfer. He's a physical character. I can't ever remember surfer strobe fighting or launching multiple physical attacks.
Not to say surfer can't dodge those kinds of attacks. especially since his long range perception is far superior to Superman's. No one is going to touch surfer unless he wants them to. at least not if he has enough space inbetween himself and that person.
Once again the art proves my case, Supes vibrated and SS simply dodged...that isn't anything a typical human can't do. Oh and Supes does have other showings were he has already vibrated so I seriously don't know why you're putting up so much resistance. So agaisnt deathurge they were both fighting in close quarters and engaged in MA while deathurge was throwing attacks at light speed.........
The art proves nothing, what happened on-panel is too similar to dismiss without proof.
Against Deathurge, yes they were fighting in fairly close quarters. Whether or not they were actually engaged in H2H is irrelevant. Dodging at lightspeed is dodging at lightspeed, if you can do it then you can do it whether it's against a punch, blast, etc.
But I'm happy to see that you've given up your bogus downplaying of the speed demonstrated against Nova and Lunatik .
1. Tennis players constantly react to shots coming at them at 100MPH in a fairly enclosed arena....by you're logic they can probably just step into a boxing arena and easily slip past every punched thrown there way.
2. Supes already has other showings where he performs similar feats, SS was just shown to move slightly away from Hulks attack while supes was shown vibrating past DD's attacks....it's what's shown so plz get over it.
3.No use in debating those Lunatik and Nova examples, he wasn't using super speed in either situation....well unless u wanna count him flying fast on his board and grabbing someone as "combat speed" lol.
Surfer wasn't that far away. I doubt they were even 10 feet from each other. And the term "speed of light" was specifically used.
How did the art positively demonstrate the fact that Supes was vibrating to the point of intangibility?
Of course he was, that's why you've given up and refuse to settle the argument. And yes, grabbing and throwing someone at super speed is combat speed.
And we're still waiting on proof to support your claims that Surfer's reflexes are dulled when he's off his board. Remember what Raoul said about stating your opinion over and over without providing any actual proof...
1. He dodged at super speed, thus he can dodge at super speed. What's so hard to get about that?
2. Lunatik had "speed lines" when Surfer was dodging him... he was using super speed. And Nova wasn't focused on him because he was moving too fast to for Nova to see... and Nova has super speed.
3. Except against Hulk, Lunatic, Deathurge, and Nova.
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Wait when did the threadstarter state that we are using feats from surfer while he is OFF his board? How does him being on his board disqualify them from being combat feats? This level of foolishness is just sad.
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Address all my points and provide proof to support your claims that Surfer's reflexes are dulled while he's off his board and we'll talk. You can't go demanding proof when you've repeatedly refused to provide ANY.
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? I'm sure the Mods would judge if it would end our repeat performances...
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