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Selene is never shown using an axe. We dont know how good she is with an axe. Am I arguing that Karl can disarm her and use her pistols against her? Nope. Why? Cuz Karl is never shown using Berettas.

Dude, wood splinters and her weight (110ish) made the wood fall with ease. An arm is not blown off by a 9 mm that easy, it will take several shots.


Because we all know swinging an axe is mentally taxing in the highest of orders.

Karl probably couldn't disarm her, she's too fast for him.

That was a full on floor in an apartment building, not just some 1/2 sheet of plywood. So those 9mm's weren't just ordinary 9mm's, going by movie feats. She can do several shots, rather quickly too. Pops goes Karl's elbows, poor Karl.


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Because we all know swinging an axe is mentally taxing in the highest of orders.

Karl probably couldn't disarm her, she's too fast for him.

That was a full on floor in an apartment building, not just some 1/2 sheet of plywood. So those 9mm's weren't just ordinary 9mm's, going by movie feats. She can do several shots, rather quickly too. Pops goes Karl's elbows, poor Karl.
Mh, and Karl is just gonna stand there and not evade as she unloads on him. Going by movie feats, Selene just points and sprays hoping to hit the target. She needs McClane and Riggs to take her to the range.









































And then rape her like a jungle animal.


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She hits her targets enough.

She's hot.

Karl's penis is dry and shriveled.


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She's hot.

Karl's penis is dry and shriveled.


AHA!

This logic is impeccable. I have NO rebuttals for this. laughing


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Sorry, man, doesn't work. Still too slow. She just ran fast. Doesn't help her with Karl in any way...except when she's running away from him.


It was nice to actually get a look at her speed's effect as it looks to humans, but to say she can't match Karl in reflexes is pushing it. Her entire vamphood was centered on hunting down lycanthropes, which were canonically shown to be more powerful than the vampires. Spending your life fighting opponents stronger than you (especially in her case, since she's still a "young" vampiress) and you'll develop good reflexes.


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It was nice to actually get a look at her speed's effect as it looks to humans, but to say she can't match Karl in reflexes is pushing it. Her entire vamphood was centered on hunting down lycanthropes,
No it's not. For teh humanz. erm


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which were canonically shown to be more powerful than the vampires.


Really?

Where?

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Spending your life fighting opponents stronger than you (especially in her case, since she's still a "young" vampiress) and you'll develop good reflexes.


Uh, no dude. Being a vampire alone gives you the strength and reflexes. And the older you get, the stronger you get, in the Underworld universe.


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She hits her targets enough.

She's hot.

Karl's penis is dry and shriveled.
Actually, Karl surgically removed it.


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No it's not. For teh humanz. erm


The humanz in Hellboy could see everything Karl did...that makes them sooper humanz? >.>



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Really?

Where?


Pretty much every encounter? In the first encounter in Underworld, the lycan took down at least two vamps before going after Selene.


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Uh, no dude. Being a vampire alone gives you the strength and reflexes. And the older you get, the stronger you get, in the Underworld universe.


You get stronger, but in what context? I took it as an overall enhancing of their abilities, which makes sense, ya? So she would not only get stronger, she would get faster (i.e. catching up to a speeding truck like Markus), her reaction time would get better (going toe-to-toe with a hybrid [Markus]), et cetera. This is all assuming we're not using Selene at the end of Evolution, when she was evolved even past the power of hybrids.


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The humanz in Hellboy could see everything Karl did...that makes them sooper humanz? >.>


Umm...that in no way relates to the point you are quoting. erm





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Pretty much every encounter? In the first encounter in Underworld, the lycan took down at least two vamps before going after Selene.


Uh. No. no expression I want you to do us all a favor and count the number of Lycans Selene kills. Since she is so young (by vampire standards), it should get the point across.




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You get stronger, but in what context? I took it as an overall enhancing of their abilities, which makes sense, ya? So she would not only get stronger, she would get faster (i.e. catching up to a speeding truck like Markus), her reaction time would get better (going toe-to-toe with a hybrid [Markus]), et cetera. This is all assuming we're not using Selene at the end of Evolution, when she was evolved even past the power of hybrids.



K.

You're using "hybrids" wrong. Hybrids is the combinations of Lycan and Vampire...at least in the movie.

Well, if we use the Selene at the end of Evolution, then...that could be different. Are there speed feats for her at the end of Evolution?


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Since she is so young (by vampire standards), it should get the point across.


Actually she isn't that young at all. Markus converted Viktor so he would help control William. As soon as William was captured, Selene's father was commissioned to build the prison, and Selene was turned soon after that.

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You're using "hybrids" wrong. Hybrids is the combinations of Lycan and Vampire...at least in the movie.


Actually he isn't wrong... Markus is a Vampire dominant Hybrid.


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