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LOL your website facts are funny buddy. You have no idea about what you're talking about. Your military website is right in saying that they're stealthy yes, as stealthy and as covert as the Rangers? Just once again proves u know nothing.


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Wait a second, you said the SEALS did not specialize in stealth, I said they do, I merely proved they do. I never, not once, said real life SEALS are more stealthy than Rangers.

Funny, the MILITARY websites kinda imply it though. Your best defense is "You dont know what you're talking about."

PROVE it. PROVE Rangers in the real world are more stealthy than real life SEALS.

Wait, lemme guess, "I know all about it, you know shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


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1. Both squads are dropped on the opposite side of the jungle and are assigned to wipe the other team out.

Ol' Painless (and if needed a"CONTACT!" barrage) end the TotS team.

2. The Special Forces unit takes the TotS mission. They must bring back Dr. Kendricks alive and any nuns/priests that agree to go. They get roughly 30 Africans along the way and must get them to safety as best as possible.

Again, Ol' Painless puts some real hurting, and I'm pretty sure it had incendiary rounds as well, so that platoon of 30 men gets mowed down. They are also helped by having a strong man who can lift trucks. They are stealth experts as well. Dutch also killed a guy instantly with a knife throw. I believe the entire reason Mac and the CIA wanted Dutch was because his team were great at taking on large forces ("We needed someone who can crack these bastards")

3. The Navy Seals are in the jungle of Guatemala. Jungle Hunter starts to pick them apart. Can they suceed in staying alive?

I doubt it.

4. Overall, who is the more elite team? Which team can do more things? Which of the two squads would you want escorting you throughout the jungle?

Quite honestly, I'm going to say Dutch's team. The SEALS had an electronic tracker, whereas Billy was mentally reconstructing event scenarios based off blades of grass. And Mac's accolade of them being the best is helped by the fact that a military general agreed to go along with the ruse to get them there.


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LT's crew had a sniper, He rapes. Plus they had better feats.

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The SEALs had better equipment, but Dutch's crew were better skilled. Billy could track and navigate easier than Kevin James can eat. Blaine no-sold a bullet wound to the arm and has a minigun which shoots incendiary rounds.

Also should be noted that jungle/guerrilla warfare may be the Navy SEAL's skill, but it is Dutch's Team's bread and butter. Note that their first trap only failed because it got tripped prematurely by a pig, and the second trap worked, and only failed because the Predator blasted out of it. Dutch was setting up excellent traps against the Predator as well, and even managed to ambush it with the explosive arrows (which he improvised). The SEAL Team never improvised like that or shown such proficiency at jungle warfare and hunting.

Dutch's team is more elite via screenfeats. The only thing LT has is a sniper.


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The SEALs had better equipment, but Dutch's crew were better skilled. Billy could track and navigate easier than Kevin James can eat. Blaine no-sold a bullet wound to the arm and has a minigun which shoots incendiary rounds.

Also should be noted that jungle/guerrilla warfare may be the Navy SEAL's skill, but it is Dutch's Team's bread and butter. Note that their first trap only failed because it got tripped prematurely by a pig, and the second trap worked, and only failed because the Predator blasted out of it. Dutch was setting up excellent traps against the Predator as well, and even managed to ambush it with the explosive arrows (which he improvised). The SEAL Team never improvised like that or shown such proficiency at jungle warfare and hunting.

Dutch's team is more elite via screenfeats. The only thing LT has is a sniper.


You're wrong about the reason the 1st trap didn't work. It failed cuz Dutch didn't realise that the Pred used the trees yet. Had the boar not come thru it still would have failed. The rest tho thumb up


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My apologies. You're right. Still, I do feel that Dutch's team were more elite and skilled.


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The SEALs had better equipment, but Dutch's crew were better skilled. Billy could track and navigate easier than Kevin James can eat. Blaine no-sold a bullet wound to the arm and has a minigun which shoots incendiary rounds.

Also should be noted that jungle/guerrilla warfare may be the Navy SEAL's skill, but it is Dutch's Team's bread and butter. Note that their first trap only failed because it got tripped prematurely by a pig, and the second trap worked, and only failed because the Predator blasted out of it. Dutch was setting up excellent traps against the Predator as well, and even managed to ambush it with the explosive arrows (which he improvised). The SEAL Team never improvised like that or shown such proficiency at jungle warfare and hunting.

Dutch's team is more elite via screenfeats. The only thing LT has is a sniper.
No. Let's compare village raid feats. Dutch's team raided a village and had to go in guns blazing. LT's team did it right under the noses of the enemy. Stealth advantage goes to the SEAL's. And yes, this is a huge advantage. So is the sniper. Silk can pick Dutch's team off one by one from hundreds of yards away.

Seriously, what can Dutch's team do when Silk starts sniping them? If they stick their heads out they'll be killed. As Silk snipes, LT and crew sneak around behind Dutch and crew and finish them off.

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As far as stealth goes, did you forget when Dutch's team infiltrated the compound, Blaine avoiding tripwires and such, and swiping the guys on the guard towers? Dutch's team displayed about the same stealth (if not more, considering how they managed to actually trap an extraterrestrial) as L.Ts. I don't even think the Nigerian rebels were at the Doctor's camp when L.T. got there. It was only after they left that the bad guys came and destroyed it.

A sniper is the only advantage L.T and his crew have. even if L.T's crew wins, it will be solely because of the sniper (provided Silk doesn't get hit with a "CONTACT!!!" barrage of bullets which flattened a quarter of the jungle).


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Lieutenant A.K. Waters is a covert name McClane uses when he's vacationing.


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Bullshit. Everybody knows his covert name is "Frank Moses", the most badass Bruce Willis character ever.


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He has more than one alias.


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As long as it's not "Hudson Hawk"


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