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As I said above hes not done it before, but technically Kain is dead in most ways you would assume to think someone is dead, hell hes not even got a heart and the only part of him that "may" be touchable is his soul which is what I would assume Elder God would use considering thats what it eats and uses to spin new life.

now Kains soul is untouchable by the EG, all vampires are. He needs agents like wraiths (raziel) to process the soul for them but even then Kain seems untouchable as the writer of the series claims the only reason Kain is alive because of his "nature as the scion of balance.

I think physical thrashing is Elder Gods best bet of winning and expanding until its mass is ridiculously large. If thats not enough then nobody wins this match, Sin is too slow and not powerful enough to cause enough damage to EG size even if he is allowed to hit him.


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So it's a power he has never displayed?

Nuff said imo.

Sounds like it's being made up to me

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Oh lawd.


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Originally posted by EvilAngel
So it's a power he has never displayed?

Nuff said imo.

Sounds like it's being made up to me


Well yeah. you know its what I was discussing with AG so its not been "made up" its just being discussed as a possibility. Read previous posts please.


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Sin is not powerful.


oxymoron

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How?


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Sin- his destructive feats strike fear throughout spira, and is a superpowerful being

not powerful- direct opposite of Sin

oxymoron - two contradictory terms

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yes but you forgot half the sentence, the rest of my sentence being my point and argument. The rest of the sentence eliminates the oxymoron.....

If I was talking on a base term and directly claiming Sin was not powerful in general then it will not be an oxymoron, more an opinion, possibly correct depending on what or who I am comparing it to.


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Hehe. It's all a matter of perspective. Sin can either be extremely powerful or a harmless ant depending on who you compare Sin to.


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Same with every entity.


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Same with every entity.


Exactly.


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Sin eats the elder god can gets massive gas problems. The Guy has a dimension in his stomach.


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Well yeah. you know its what I was discussing with AG so its not been "made up" its just being discussed as a possibility. Read previous posts please.


Yeah, it's made up.

Where's your proof of it's existence?

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First show me where I said it the power definitely exists, then I will show my proof.


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First show me where I said it the power definitely exists, then I will show my proof.


So you're saying it doesn't exist?

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So you're saying it doesn't exist?


It exists, but it isn't known if it can be used on a still-living being.


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I am saying theres no evidence to suggest he has the ability for a fact, I was if you read the posts before your own discussing AG's idea of the EG being able to do this ability and the reasons why I would think he may or may not be able to do it. Never did I say he could definatley do so, I cannot see how you could miss the part in my post after his outlining this.


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It exists, but it isn't known if it can be used on a still-living being.


How can you prove it exists?


So wait. The power to kill someone, might not work on someone living? and it doesn't work on living-dead things?

lol, what???



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I am saying theres no evidence to suggest he has the ability for a fact, I was if you read the posts before your own discussing AG's idea of the EG being able to do this ability and the reasons why I would think he may or may not be able to do it. Never did I say he could definatley do so, I cannot see how you could miss the part in my post after his outlining this.


Welcome to my world. There's allot of things i don't know how you don't understand.

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Hes talking about a speculation based on the Elder Gods power over the wheel of fate, as he claims himself he is the master of life, death and re-birth and based on speculation, not an actual feat, he may be able to take the life from an entity and recreate it as a different life in birth on a whim.

Fact is hes not shown this, nor has he had any obvious reason to and he makes it clear vampires as immortals are beyond his ability to even absorb into his wheel of fate because their souls exist on even in death as sentient entities (wraiths).

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Welcome to my world. There's allot of things i don't know how you don't understand.


Or my understanding of those instances are beyond your understanding of my perception. Don't get annoyed or irritated and try and make a jibe because of your own mistake


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How can you prove it exists?


So wait. The power to kill someone, might not work on someone living? and it doesn't work on living-dead things?

lol, what???





Welcome to my world. There's allot of things i don't know how you don't understand.


I think there's been a misunderstanding here somewhere. The EG runs the "wheel"/cycle of death, life, and rebirth. It's simply unknown if EG can place a still-living being on this "wheel".


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