How about being above the combined power of all 13 Antediluvians, even without that rule (which is a testomy to just the amount of suicide it is to engage him) a Elder around 9-10 generation can still with a thought level a fourstored house iirc.
The third generation of vampires in Vampire: The Masquerade, descended from Caine, from the Bible, 'cursed' by God to be practically a god himself. Each one is pretty much a mini apocalypse.
1. ...No. Gouki can destroy/sink an island with a punch, while not Shin, and do so casually. He carried a sunken ship to the surface with his leg. What the hell does the Gief have to compare to that? Wrestling a bear? Wait, no, wrestling like, THREE bears!
2. Galaxy punch. Even the implication puts Slayer as stronger than Slayer.
3. Lol no he doesn't. His "skillz" consist of Slayer doing spinning ballerina kicks and flailing about in mid-air. Slayer fights with such a lack of skill it is hilarious, he is blatantly ****ing around.
4. He casual can avoid/block/counter anyone in the cast's attacks. Including Potemkin, a mid-tier.
5. Gen also has a martial art that can kill you with a touch. A better example is Gouki.
6. I was explaining how Slayer being superior to them has nothing to do with fighting skills. Which it doesn't.
7. Morrigan's implied power on the other hand is not only implied, but she does not even have the said power that is implied within the game.
Unlike her, we know that Slayer is above the cast with physical stats alone. It is not like I am assuming he is a powerful reality and time warper based on what people like I-No, Raven, or That Man can do (Though he does seem to be able to traverse dimensions easily), but based on his physical abilities being above the entire cast and all their powers, yeah, we can assume to an extent.
A example would be the disciplin fortitude, It can at level 9 (something that is accessable for a "ordinary" vampire make one of your limbs physically undestructable for 10 minutes. It's said that Caine given his thousand of years long lifespan has greater knowledge about each Disciplin then any other, so if a simple Vampire can learn this, I'll just leave hanging in the air what Caine can do.
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I believe one level 10 power has the Antideluvian Enoia meld with the Earth. Meaning she controlled the entire planet. In fact, iirc theres one level 10 power all disciplines have and its called 'Plot Device', basically it does whatever you need it to do.
And Caine is more powerful than all of the Antideluvians combined with millenia of practice.
Akuma didn't carry a ship, he kicked it. He strikes very hard. But he is not physically stronger than Gief. When Akuma can bend solid steel just by walkin' into it on mistake. Let me know.
I'm ignoring this. You are the only person I have ever heard across the net who 1. thinks Slayer is punchin' someone out of the galaxy wit that move and 2. The only person who takes 'every' instakill seriously as a heart attack. And I Googled it, just to see how many people shared your point of veiw on both subjects...0.
And that makes him, physically, the strongest person in the game, without any feats at all?
And that's a game mechanic. Servebot can block a Proton Canon (and any other move) wit a dinner plate.
Gen is still not stronger that Zangief, yet he has special tools that can stomp Hugo. Same wit Slayer.
How can you prove that? You can not. The game has lead me to believe he can beat anyone and that he doesn't have to over power them to do it.
She gets it at the end of the game. What is your point?
Morrigan's power is implied to be AT LEAST at Belial's level. Yet she has no showins that shows what she can do. I-No, Raven, or That Man don't just up and warp time and reality out of the blue. They use technology to do any of that. I-No was killed by Baiken, she's wit the rest of the cast. Raven or That Man are almost complete unknowns who could be even stronger than Slayer. I don't see how you can assume so much off of so little.
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Slayer moves in at mach speeds and punches Kain's head off wit mad crazy ease.
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1. Holy shit, Zangief can bend steel!? So can Batman. Gouki did not kick the ship that high, he literally dragged it up there while kicking it.
2. We know that the little blink is the opponent. We know the blink was outside the galaxy. Which instant kills should not be taken seriously? Although even if Slayer only punched them in space, that would make him stronger than Potemkin.
3. Well there is the whole galaxy punching thing.
My point was that it is certainly fighting skill that puts Slayer above the cast.
4. I was talking about it canon. You want to be technical, he can outright take their attacks head-on without injury, the cast cannot even harm him.
5. Name Slayer's special tools that make him similar to Gen, who possesses a specialised and powerful martial art. Slayer's attacks consist of normal physical strikes for the most part.
6. How does he beat them or hold his own then? Super leet fighting skills? The game has led me to believe that he is so tremendously above them all that he does not have to exert any effort in fighting any of them.
7. End of the game and does nothing...
8. And Slayer is implied to be around That Man's level, yet I do not claim he has time warping or reality warping powers. Technology? Wtf are you smoking dude? Raven's reality warping abilities is essentially the opposite of Axl Low's, instead of slipping through time he can slip through dimension, and has reality warping as a result, as well as instant regeneration. He has fought Faust, stated to be able to warp time/space and one of the stronger characters, in a reality warping battle at one point I believe. Show me where I-No uses technology to travel through time and possibly dimensions please. I-No was not killed by Baiken in canon as far as we know, that is a single ending. The other one has That Man freezing her forever in time, conscious, but immobile. We know quite a bit about Raven, and Slayer is a peer of That Man, he personally knows him with That Man directly apologising to him. They are implied to be peers in power.
1. Gief can bend solid steel 'with out tryin'. Literally walkin' out to the fightin' ring and bumped his head on some steel wit blood splurtin' out of his head and he barely notices...he uses tornadoes to perfect his pile drivers and can causally wrestle bears in the Russian winter. That's like 70 degrees below 0 in speedos wit no effect what so ever.
2. The blink did not appear outside the galaxy. It's actually near the middle. Intsakills that are clearly not serious: Faust, I-No, Bridget, and May. Do you mean to tell me that, let's say Seth from SFIV, can actually do the Tanden Engine Ultra?
3. *ignores the statement*
4. How much of the cast has Slayer fought in canon? I've never heard or seen Slayer block a punch from Potemkin. I don't think he can, I think he'll move out of the way in a real fight or he'll be smashed like a grape.
5. Idk Slayers special tools but I know he has them. You can Google any GG site you want and it will tell you that Slayer doesn't fight wit normal mortal strikes when he's serious. I'm sure Slayer has some sort of special power he uses.
6. List me all the characters in the game Slayer has beaten. Hell, list me all the ones he has fought. Go to the GG site I linked, they have all the endings of AC there. Show me him clearly over powering the cast wit just raw strength alone. I would luv to see this. *snickering*
7. Yup, does nothin', just like Slayer...and he had 2 opportunities...
8. Where is the implication that he is around That Man's level? Where is evidence of That Man's level at all? Technology, yes. That Man is a scientist, who made Raven/experimented on future Axl. Axl can not control where he goes in time. And show me or tell me where I can find where Raven travels through dimensions on the fly. Raven in a reality warping battle, are you sure your playin' GG? Where was it stated he can do this? And I hope you aint talkin' 'bout the Lightning the Argent or Overture. None of those are canon. I played GG up and down and read the FAQ 1000 times and never remember this bein' said about Raven. Only that he can travel though his time and what ever time Axl's in and that Faust found a way to follow him and they had an "extardimensional battle", meaning they fought in a parallel dimension. Not that they can warp reality. And I also don't know how warping reality would help in a fight. You know I want you to give me evidence of all of this. I-No was killed by Baiken in 'her own ending'. The events of I-No's ending are further backed up in Baiken's own story. And simply cuz they know each other that does not make Slayer and That Man peers. Sol and That Man were partners and worked closely together. Is Sol his peer too?
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Mar 25th, 2010 12:17 PM
Even the implication puts Slayer as stronger than Slayer. 
