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sure it does, it is a cynical reference to religious institutions overstepping their own knowledge of the world and trying to censor what is otherwise perfectly valid and beneficial science.


My knowledge is that God made Scienctist are you staying that Scientist made God?


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Originally posted by dadudemon
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Don't worry my granddad died cause of it, if I hear anything about a cure I'll make a thread here with balloons and everything.

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My knowledge is that God made Scienctist are you staying that Scientist made God?
Well some scientists doing a better job than "god".


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Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
My knowledge is that God made Scienctist are you staying that Scientist made God?


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sure it does, it is a cynical reference to religious institutions overstepping their own knowledge of the world and trying to censor what is otherwise perfectly valid and beneficial science.


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Don't worry my granddad died cause of it, if I hear anything about a cure I'll make a thread here with balloons and everything.

Well some scientists doing a better job than "god".

yeah, we should thank scientists

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Don't worry my granddad died cause of it, if I hear anything about a cure I'll make a thread here with balloons and everything.

Well some scientists doing a better job than "god".


How are they doing a better job then God?


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How are they doing a better job then God?
By curing diseases, creating antidotes and in the future I'm sure to repair genetic defects too.


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How are they doing a better job then God?


What has God done for you lately?


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Because God gives Vision to us.anyway it is a good thing that they are helping people but with other stuff it is not so good.
You could extend this line of thought to anything. Anyone who tries to rectify something or fix what's broken could be seen as playing God. "You chopped down that tree for firewood so that you wouldn't freeze in winter? Don't. God put that tree there, God made it cold, God made your body prone to death, so stop trying to stop anything that happens because it's not God's will."


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I am not stopping anything and it is God's will for people to be happy.Just not when Scientist try to play God


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I am not stopping anything and it is God's will for people to be happy.Just not when Scientist try to play God


so god wants people to be happy, unless they can be cured by stem cells, then he wants them to suffer needlessly?

and you worship that being? a being that purposefully creates curable diseases that he doesn't want people to cure?

I'm sorry, but that is not a very benevolent or merciful dirty.


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so god wants people to be happy, unless they can be cured by stem cells, then he wants them to suffer needlessly?


Nah, that's just human sentiments. God wants us learn as much as possible, without harming eachother.

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and you worship that being? a being that purposefully creates curable diseases that he doesn't want people to cure?



Nah. I don't worship that grumpy, god, that hates everyone.

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I'm sorry, but that is not a very benevolent or merciful dirty.


I agree.


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I am not stopping anything and it is God's will for people to be happy.Just not when Scientist try to play God
When does a scientist cross the line from advancing happiness and playing God?


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When does a scientist cross the line from advancing happiness and playing God?


I would think Hitler-like Eugenics would be a good example. smile


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Hey, so long as Hitler didn't cure anyone's blindness, they're all good.


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I am not stopping anything and it is God's will for people to be happy.Just not when Scientist try to play God


Maybe you should take your opinion and share it with certain people in africa, I'm sure they would be happy to know that the starvation of millions, AIDS and malaria is gods will and part of his devine plan.

Yeah I agree scientists are evil for helping other people and make their lives more comfortable and longer.


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Hey, so long as Hitler didn't cure anyone's blindness, they're all good.


lol

Well, he'd be safe, at least, with the right-wing screamers.


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Nah, that's just human sentiments. God wants us learn as much as possible, without harming eachother.


yea, probably, but not everyone's god

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Nah. I don't worship that grumpy, god, that hates everyone.


most people do though. IMHO, most people's god appears as little more than evil spirits. humanity can rest easier knowing the god of the bible does not exist
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I agree.


indeed, if only you represented the majority view


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yea, probably, but not everyone's god



most people do though. IMHO, most people's god appears as little more than evil spirits. humanity can rest easier knowing the god of the bible does not exist

indeed, if only you represented the majority view


What's amazing is I knew that "dirty" = diety. I have psychic powers from God. no expression






laughing



And, you're right, most Christians believe in this f*g hating, fire bringing, evildoer smiting God. That God is not very cool. I don't like their God. I chose to believe in a God that is kind, benevolent, but rarely interferes with humanity, at all.


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Sounds like you need someone who is closer to this situation...

I am legally blind. Not fully blind mind you. I can not drive, see any color and I am extreamly light sensitive. Now my vision is not correctable. No surgery nor any breaks throughs have come along for me quite yet. I have been through many camps and rehab schools during my life with others whom are blind or legally blind.

In my experienced opinion those who have been blind since birth or a very young age adapt the easiest. But the parents play a huge role in that. Please please if you ever have a child with an eye problem try and not shelter them. They need to know that they can do just about everything a sighted kid can do. I've seen sheltered kids who are blind and it's not healthy at all.

I don't agree that there is a high suicide rate with those whom have restored sight. The highest rate is with those who lost their sight from accidents.

With the many persons I've seen go through surgery to repair their sight, all but one had no change what so ever. The one that did is my best friend. She was fully blind in one eye and now she can see shadows and differences in light and dark areas.

This happends alot. Either nothing happens or theres a slight change.

But that hardly discourages many. As for me I'd be up for it, if anything were to come along for me. I quite enjoy my uh... more intune sense of touch and hearing. But I wouldn't be able to pass it up.

And if nothing ever comes along i'll be perfectly happy too. Theres alot of things I miss and that I'm glad I miss. Manly how rude people can be. Evil looks and gestures, I'd rather be oblivious than waste any kind of emotion in reaction to rude people.

(BTW sorry for any grammer or spelling mess ups, I know here in the GDF you guys can be sticklers lol)

P.s Please don't take your sight for granted. Or the ability to drive.


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I don't agree that there is a high suicide rate with those whom have restored sight. The highest rate is with those who lost their sight from accidents.


It's not really a matter of opinion you can agree with or disagree with. Years worth of statistics show a great number of people committing suicide after regaining their sight. The rate could be higher among people who lose their sight but that doesn't change anything.


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