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CosmicComet
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CM in both.

1. No real weaknesses to exploit.

2. I don't want to be frigging immortal, that would be boring, but were I to remain in my super powered form I would be immortal anyway. I like the fact that I have a choice.


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Originally posted by zeel
only real powers supes has over marvel is heat vision, and it hasnt been a huge factor in their fights. marvel also has the ability to re heal by transforming to billy then back to marvel. However thats dangerous. his magical lighting is dangerous to supes. However the writers write billy horribly when he uses the lightning bolt.

For cris sake billy has the wisdom of soloman. How many times is he going to forget to hold on tight to his opponent as the lighting bolt comes down. this grabbing billy and throwing him into his own lighting is retarded lol.

however if both combatants are going all out id go with supes. BA would be a better fight for supes he hits harder.


Superman has HV, freeze breath, blow breath , x-ray vision, microscopic vision (can instantly know if someone has AIDS), telescopic vision (can see light years away), can turn intangible, can t-vo, can sun dip to be astronomically more powerful than Marvel, super hearing, resistance to mental attacks.

Marvel has better resistance to magic and no kryptonite or red radiation weakness. Marvel is also immortal. But can be mind controlled and be forced to change back to Billy and get killed.

IMO, its about more useful powers vs. Immortality. If I don't want to live forever anyway I would go with Superman. If I want to live forever (even after the Universe dies) then I would choose Marvel.

Barring Immortality Superman's value is more in real life than in comics. This is because he has NO WEAKNESSES or other beings with powers to fight against in real life.

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Superman, in both cases! This is basically a no brainer, imo.

See, the thing is, for all of Captain Marvels strengths, he has to put up with gods screaming in his ear all the time.

That would drive me insane, having a bunch of arrogant, overbearing deities questioning my every move, reading my every thought. Hell, it cost Billy his relationship with Stargirl.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
CM in both.

1. No real weaknesses to exploit.

2. I don't want to be frigging immortal, that would be boring, but were I to remain in my super powered form I would be immortal anyway. I like the fact that I have a choice.


If there is a x% chance of you dying while in mortal form. Then you would most likely die the Ceiling[100/x] time you change. X becomes pretty high when the government knows this.

With that said,

1. CM is more vulnerable to heat and mind attacks than Superman is . A very hot and powerful energy blast or mind rape can fell you.

2. As CM you will die in about Ceiling[100/x] changings to mortal form.

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Superman, in both cases! This is basically a no brainer, imo.

See, the thing is, for all of Captain Marvels strengths, he has to put up with gods screaming in his ear all the time.

That would drive me insane, having a bunch of arrogant, overbearing deities questioning my every move, reading my every thought. Hell, it cost Billy his relationship with Stargirl.
Didn't know this. Good points. CM loses points there.

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Billy is still alive at least in the 90th century. Thunder from the Reboot Legion got her powers from him then. I think he's still got the job in DC One Million too, hundreds of thousands of years after that.

I think looking old is just part of the job of being in charge of the rock- he has a grey hair now and he will still have grey hair in a million years. After all, a Marvel's body is based on an idealization of themselves. CM is Billy's image of himself as an adult, Mary likewise, and Freddies' is himself but healed.



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2. I don't want to be frigging immortal, that would be boring, but were I to remain in my super powered form I would be immortal anyway. I like the fact that I have a choice.

You could still kill yourself if you wanted by flying into a Red Sun.


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If there is a x% chance of you dying while in mortal form. Then you would most likely die the Ceiling[100/x] time you change. X becomes pretty high when the government knows this.

With that said,

1. CM is more vulnerable to heat and mind attacks than Superman is . A very hot and powerful energy blast or mind rape can fell you.

2. As CM you will die in about Ceiling[100/x] changings to mortal form.
What in the **** are you talking about?


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If there is a x% chance of you dying while in mortal form. Then you would most likely die the Ceiling[100/x] time you change. X becomes pretty high when the government knows this.

With that said,

1. CM is more vulnerable to heat and mind attacks than Superman is . A very hot and powerful energy blast or mind rape can fell you.



weakness to heat???


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If there is a x% chance of you dying while in mortal form. Then you would most likely die the Ceiling[100/x] time you change. X becomes pretty high when the government knows this.

With that said,

1. CM is more vulnerable to heat and mind attacks than Superman is . A very hot and powerful energy blast or mind rape can fell you.

2. As CM you will die in about Ceiling[100/x] changings to mortal form.
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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
What in the **** are you talking about?
If he didn't spend this much time on these forums, I'd swear he was trolling you all.


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weakness to heat???


No he doesn't have a weakness to heat. I'm saying that Superman can take higher temperatures than him. Both are highly resistant though.

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What in the **** are you talking about?


The ceiling function is known as the least integer greater than the number X. For example, Ceiling[2.3]=3.

If the probability of you dying when changing to mortal form is 1% then within 100 times you have a high chance of dying. This can be expressed as Ceiling[100%/1%]=100 (thus the 100 times).

If the government knows who u r then the probability of dying goes up.
You must stay CM almost indefinitely just to live a long time.

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The ceiling function is known as the least integer greater than the number X. For example, Ceiling[2.3]=3.

If the probability of you dying when changing to mortal form is 1% then within 100 times you have a high chance of dying. This can be expressed as Ceiling[100%/1%]=100 (thus the 100 times).

If the government knows who u r then the probability of dying goes up.
You must stay CM almost indefinitely just to live a long time.
Why does Billy have a probability of dying when changing to his form?
Has anyone ever died when possessing this power?

Why does the chance of dying go up just because the government knows who you are?
Scratch that, why would the government know, and if they tried to kill me once, they'd be toast. I suspect they wouldn't outright kill a magical being far above them if he did no wrong, as well, if you want to play the retard game.


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^ Tread carefully. He's far better at that game than you could possibly imagine.


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I'll go Masterbruce all over h1's ass.


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Superman no doubt.


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Superman no doubt.
Magic > Superman


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Superman has HV, freeze breath, blow breath , x-ray vision, microscopic vision (can instantly know if someone has AIDS), telescopic vision (can see light years away), can turn intangible, can t-vo, can sun dip to be astronomically more powerful than Marvel, super hearing, resistance to mental attacks.

Marvel has better resistance to magic and no kryptonite or red radiation weakness. Marvel is also immortal. But can be mind controlled and be forced to change back to Billy and get killed.

IMO, its about more useful powers vs. Immortality. If I don't want to live forever anyway I would go with Superman. If I want to live forever (even after the Universe dies) then I would choose Marvel.

Barring Immortality Superman's value is more in real life than in comics. This is because he has NO WEAKNESSES or other beings with powers to fight against in real life.



Show me some examples of supermans HV doing serious damage to captian marvel. No not scans of it hurting someone els but captian marvel. As far as mind control goes i agree. superman has much better will power then cap. It seems captian marvel can be mind controled by just about everyone.

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No he doesn't have a weakness to heat. I'm saying that Superman can take higher temperatures than him. Both are highly resistant though.



what proof do you have of t his, im not saying your wrong but do you have proof that marvel and supes both confronted some super heat or energy source and marvel couldnt stand it but supes did??

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overall i would rather be billy the magic construct body is based on the persons idealized version of themselves also it can be altered by conscious focus of an image..

billy looks like marvel b/c its how he envisioned his dad and himself being an adult an amalgam.


members of his family recognize the eerie similarity of marvel and billy's dad.

so, i would never age and stay young in my magic form and my original body would be in some form of stasis..


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