I've never seen a missiles ever affect him. Ever. Cap has even joked before to robbers with guns how even if they had atom bombs it wouldn't help.
Cap isn't immune to getting blown back by sufficient force however. That has happened a couple of times when he said he didn't have time to brace himself. He still doesn't get hurt when this happens of course and never has a look of pain of discomfort on his face when it happens.
He exploded a state of the art torpedo that was fired at light speed as well.
Context of the chains? In his second or third appearance alone, and he has only gotten stronger since then, showed him breaking out of reinforced chains without effort.
Gonna have to see that to believe it. His damage soak has been entirely consistent through the 74 issues I've plowed through so far.
Ah. Sounds like the thing I described already, it was one of his first showings in Whiz comics before he ever got his own book. He was knocked out by gas from Sivana and then he broke out of the chains when he woke up.
Yet they obviously aren't invulnerable if they can be dented. Just highly durable.
A thin metallic shield, vibranium or otherwise, isn't the same as an invulnerable person with insta-recovery.
Oh, and Cap has bent an unbreakable robot into a pretzel too. No problem. Was it just hyperbole? Nope. A later metal foe, Mr. Atom, could be knocked about and even temporarily incapacitated by Cap's punches, yet was able to completely tank a blast powerful enough to hurtle him 100 years into the future.
That blast would have to be hella powerful seeing as even a sun exploding canon shell could not send Cap hurtling into a different time. Mr. Atom came after that story by the way.
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-Yes, Cap is indestructible. More so than vibranium. He doesn't even get bruised by people equal to him. Not to mention he has been narrated to survive ANY destructive force.
-Not really. One is completely indestructible, one just has a high threshold. Cap is invulnerable to universal level beings as well, they too called him completely indestructible and could only get rid of him by simply erasing the law that allows him to exist.
-Yes. Reading is fundamental. I just gave you a reference. That robot was more invulnerable than than a future robot called Mr Atom. Who himself tanked a blast more powerful than the Nova causing blast that didn't harm Cap. In the same story that Cap bent that robot into a pretzel, he also wrecked a castle made of a composite of diamond and steel very easily.
-You completely misunderstood the point. Mr. Atom, who is comparable to Cap in stats, totally tanked something far more powerful than a sun exploding shell. And no, Surfer's Nova tanking and such can simply be summed up as part of his powerset or the typical sliding durability scale trope. Seeing as he can still be hurt by Hulk or Rulk, neither of whom have punches on the power scale of Novas on any day to day basis. That's different Cap who is simply invulnerable to everything.
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-I saw what Galan was talking about. It was an early Whiz story for Cap. An early story where Cap had a much lower established level, about equal with GA Superman of the same time.
Since that time they increased his durability by an incalculable amount:
-Regularly tanking things like atom bombs,
-Special minature canon shells with concentrated power that would calculate out to multiple times more powerful than the Tsar bomb.
-Canon shells travelling at lighspeed,
-Mile long canon shells fired from space.
-Tanking point blank hand held futuristic ray guns that could blow up mountains.
-Tanking point blank a proton bomb that blew up an alternate earth.
-Tanking Death rays made to dissolve any substance in the universe.
-Tanking black holes--and not simply escaping the pull of black holes from a fair distance away like Thor did just recently carrying Rulk--but being completely inside of them and escaping with not a hint of discomfort or difficulty.
-Tanking nova causing alien canon shells at point blank.
-Tanking blows from people in his own strength class like Black Adam, Oggar, and Mr Atom, all they could to each other at best was knock each other back some when they aren't fully braced.
It's not an inconsistency so much as him simply being at a lower level back for Galan's example. For example, during his earliest Whiz constricted titles he was worried about a volcano exploding, and then in his self titled comics he casually stopped a volcano just by sitting on it.
Exactly, feats > statements. And Cap has the feats and then the statements come with each feat supplementing them, assuring us that each thing Cap tanks is because he is TOTALLY invulnerable.
-Except you haven't read these comics and don't actually know what you are talking about. Cap does not get hurt by lesser things after his own comic series had started. Him being totally invulnerable to any physical destructive force is a consistent quality that the narration and even universe governing Gods tell us about. He is more, yes more, invulnerable than Classic Juggernaut.
-*smacks forehead* No. He bent a robot more durable than another robot who tanked something FAR MORE powerful than a Supernova. And Cap has no trouble busting diamonds up, or hurting latter mentioned Robot above with punches.
-Well we already know Sentry already tried to commit suicide by flying into a Star. Void revived him. Not a durability feat but survivability feat. Surfer, Thor, Superman, none of them are consistently invulnerable like Cap was they can and have gotten hurt or knocked out by far less--Supes being ko'd by running into a moon at lightspeed for example. That's why you are forced to go for an average for them. It's part of the sliding durability scale trope of modern comics. Simple.
Cap's average in his own titles were simple; total indestructibility. If friggin Booster Gold were to punch Superman, Superman would still feel it. If Black Adam punches Cap, Cap can (and has) taken the punch and stand in place and not be budged.
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