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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
This is more or less true. At least how he been depicted as of late it seems he has far more control over his powers then anyone realized, perhaps even himself. He did show ability to increase the amount of power his beams seemed to let out, and though some may wish to chalk it up to his visor control, astonishing x-men seem to make it quite clear it under his control rather then the visor, for how powerful a blast may be.

so it lament terms I agree

it was always that way. no expression

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I take issue with the implication that Cylcops can't use a full power blast while wearing his visor. His visor doesn't control the power, or even the intensity of the blast, what it controls is the spread. His blast isn't more powerful without his visor, it is just more. He can hit someone with just as much force with his visor as he can without it, what he can't do is hit as wide an area... but that hardly matters when his target is only seven feet tall and three feet wide.

honestly, i think you're 100% wrong. the visor blocks part of his blast, even when it's narrow, and he can't use all of it.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I take issue with the implication that Cylcops can't use a full power blast while wearing his visor. His visor doesn't control the power, or even the intensity of the blast, what it controls is the spread. His blast isn't more powerful without his visor, it is just more. He can hit someone with just as much force with his visor as he can without it, what he can't do is hit as wide an area... but that hardly matters when his target is only seven feet tall and three feet wide.

I agree 100% with this.

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smh...

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Originally posted by Blair Wind

Just with Colossus, like here?

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what comic is this from?

on a side note
I personally think Scot BFR colossus or any heavy hitter from that matter is slim to none. I not even sure why people are pretending it a likely scenerio. Though I wanna make it clear I not say cyclopes can't or wont win, but I find it very doubtful it will be by BFR the majority of the time.

Dec 25th, 2010 12:58 PM

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Though I wanna make it clear I not say cyclopes can't or wont win, but I find it very doubtful it will be by BFR the majority of the time.

so you think cyke can KO colossus?

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Originally posted by -Pr-
jubilee is incredibly powerful. that said, cyclops one shots them.

this is accurate and not accurate at the same time. She has the potential to be extremely powerful and has displayed very little of it. Also during many of her fights with sentinals happen well before she became powerful as well. She was fairly weak for good portion of her career.

can anyone post scans of or issue numbers of cyclopes doing significant damage to people with 100 class durability comparable to people like Colossus and Thing? Also not combinations such as against onslaught, because that very difficult to determine how strong that attack really was, becuase several people aided in that assault not to mention onslaught fluaxtautes in durability it seems. Bone claws wolverine to my knowledge did some serous damage to onslaughts armor.

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then you need to read more comics.

can you give me one example of Scott BFRing someone?

tell me who he blasted and roughly how far they were blasted.

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no, it definitely does control the intensity

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^ it's small but look at this part here. it describes the potency of the beam depending on the lense setting

Any chance for a bigger pic?

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Good point well made and duly accepted. My comics memory ain't what it used to be.

No worries, I made the same mistake not long time ago. I'm also leaning toward Cyclops.

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so you think cyke can KO colossus?

He should be able to. Has Cyke kayoed anybody on Colossus' level?

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Has Cyke kayoed anybody on Colossus' level?

not to my knowledge.

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Any chance for a bigger pic?

The pic is down it's so small cause google still has he pic in it's preview cache

But here's another one:
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NOTE: I mean the "Power Regulation Microship"

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That scan you posted states form the motion picture at the bottum......

as for the first pick it looks like a little kid draw it........and I have a feeling that not in any x-men comic........

Dec 25th, 2010 04:04 PM

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That thing says pretty much the same like the other pic, I've seen it before it was taken down.

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He should be able to.

based on what? confused

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That thing says pretty much the same like the other pic, I've seen it before it was taken down.

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niether one of these are from on pannel comic, why are people posting them as if relevent?

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
niether one of these are from on pannel comic, why are people posting them as if relevent?

it doesn't matter....it's still official marvel stuff

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it doesn't matter....it's still official marvel stuff

no it not. how is a movie by fox relevant to marvel comics?

hell hand books arnt even useable evidence, but some picture drawn with no source to it that looks like a little kid did it and another picture from a movie character is usable evidence? honestly think about what your argueing.

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Looks pretty much like a comic page to me.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no it not. how is a movie by fox relevant to marvel comics?

hell hand books arnt even useable evidence, but some picture drawn with no source to it that looks like a little kid did it and another picture from a movie character is usable evidence? honestly think about what your argueing.

handbook is ok as an information source

ie, if a handbook says logan got his adamantium through weapon X, its not wrong just because it came from a handbook

in this case, in regards to cyckes optic mechanism, a handbook is a good source..as marvel still had to approve it

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