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these werent sparring matches these are actual fights, because in the military we dont discriminate in match set-ups. u can challenge whoever, and men tend to take it hard losing to a woman. But if your referring to a match where people are seeking to maim or kill then i suppose your right to a degree, but ive yet to see a man thats pound for pound my equal
I'm saying, pound for pound, sure, a trained fighter is better than a powerhouse.
When the pounds are so disproportionate that one is peak human while the other is 5-10 times that, being a better fighter isn't as applicable. sure, you have a chance, but at 2-5 tons, a glancing blow will potentially break bones
Marine MCMAP is a mixture of various grappling styles using what is effective for maiming, joint, manipulation, kill blows.. etc etc..
it has a few of everything. i use to be a TKD instructor with some minor korean kick boxing and jeet kune do plus my american high school wrestling..
a lot of what was taught in MCMAP overlapped what i already knew and taught as an instructor from TKD black belt grappling techniques, Wrestling Maneuvers and kicks.. plus they threw in some knife fighting which was completely different from what i was taught in MA civy.
too be honest i wasnt a fan of MCMAP in the service or at least in the training method.
you have a bunch of kids and you tell them look this is how you grapple, arm and leg break now you try.
10 seconds later you hear a snap of bone b/c they were never taught self control and are a bunch of hormonally aggressive kids who dont apply slow steady pressure and in real world MA they would never would have been taught any of that in their 1st yr of training let alone 1st ten minutes of arrival.. majority of them would have bn refused training the minute they asked them why.
like, if you and I were to spar, aside from how much of a joke it would be, you would actually have to try harder not to break my bones using the techniques, yes?
and ya, I do have much respect for MAs, its the mental state they teach that is awesome
if you were fighting a guy that strong in real life he'd snap your bones easily
no matter your training...all you could try to do is choke them somehow which wouldn't work because he'd overpower you in every position THATS COMMON SENSE
There was an issue of Punisher Max were Frank was fighting some little Korean dude. The narration is going on about how skilled and deadly the guy is, and the it says "but it doesn't matter if you are the most skilled fighter in the world when you opponent is 6'2 and 220lbs," and then Frank just effortless rails him.
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thats b.s.....but im a strong believer in applied fighting, strength does not always equal success..but alas its only an opinion, and at the end of the day Beast will still lose
The larger fighter doesn't always win of course, but size(and strength) is probably the best advantage to have over your opponent where physical attributes are concerned.
Even Georges St. Pierre admits that Anderson Silva's size advantage is a massive obstacle to overcome were they to ever fight.
no. in MMA fighters are only a small number of ppl in the sport who train using MMA method which in themselves are not fully accredited nor properly instructed on. they use size and strength and what little they can steal from various styles not being fully knowledgeable in the mechanics or principle of the style.
these fighters train to ko opponents not kill it is a sport however bloody it may appear to you these men are not the strongest nor the meanest brutalist SOB's on the planet they are just the ones that manage to get into a televised sport.
a "real fighter" will not attempt to trade blows every move is to kill and maim and the small number of men in MMA sport only number in a few hundred at most a killer a fighter who fights and is trained militarily in whatever branch and nation number in the millions and i guarantee these men who have fought for life and death in unarmed combat would murder those sportman a hundred time over not just b/c of the number but overall mindset and it will not always be some one of equal height nor weight as the MMA sportman.
i mean do you think the best MMA champion can defeat every Marine grunt, gym Rat, MCMAP instructor in an all out fight i dare say there are thousands that would make short work of the current champion if push came to shove
There is a reason there are weight classes in all organized fighting, it's because being 60-80 pounds on someone is a nearly insurmountable handicap regardless of the aggregate skill of the fighters. Even a two inch reach advantage is massive edge in a fight.
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I don't think anyone was disagreeing with that, and maybe I was overstating the 120 pound girl vs 250 pound guy (though I still think odds would be on the man's side), that isn't the same as a comparison between an olympic level athlete and a 2-5 tonner. It would be arguable if the hardest blows from the olympian would have any effect on the larger combatant, and without doubt, the olymipan would be unable to sweep this guy off his feet or control their momentum. Further, the force of any blow landed by the larger would demolish the olympian in a way that a 250 pound person couldn't do to a toddler.
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Feb 24th, 2011 07:39 PM
(actually, pretty good arc too)
