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I don't know of any other precogs other than franklin richards and psylocke.

maybe phoenix??


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Silver Surfer is also omniscient. can't he see through time..the future, etc.?


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I don't know any other precogs other than franklin richards and psylocke.

maybe phoenix??


X-Man.


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^ What's he even up to nowadays?


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right i forgot about Nate Grey.


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^ What's he even up to nowadays?


DnA (Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning) will be the new creative force behind New Mutants. And this is what they had to say about X-Man.

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Particularly with Nate Grey "X-Man, knowing the level of his power set, is a great one to start off with," said Abnett. "He's X-Royalty that needs to be relocated. He can't just be left hanging in the wind," said Lanning. "The last time we saw him, he was being taken off to be hooked up to the Dark Beast's machines."




X-Man is also scheduled to appear on some more X-Titles, outside of New Mutants. Hopefully they can make X-Man out to be the go to guy, when things get heavy.


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Ah, cool. Thanks, Id thumb up


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If Earth knew of the attack then they would have a chance but it's an entire year of prep for the techno lords the amass enough resources to take out the big guns within the first hour of their conquest. How does Doom, Reed, Banner, or Hank counter their tech going self destruct on them?

Recall when IM had his entire body morphed into Ultron? Doom is getting his armor hacked by Ultron whole simply warp and crush Doom inside his armor. Ultron was taking over other techs within seconds. Backed by Brainiac, even Doom wouldn't know what happened. Likely the first target due to being Doom and his time platform.

Reed, Pym, and Banner all rely on tech that could easily be hacked and used on them off the bat within minutes as well. Their most immediate techs around them would turn into Phalanxes and kill them on the spot.

As for the mages, how do they fare against nukes that detonate about two blocks from their vicinity without any warnings? I'll take a wild guess and say most of them die. And no, I wouldn't say it'd be a problem for Brainiac to teleport well placed hidden nukes to take out the mages.

All of Earth's tech including the Fortress of Solitude, Batcave, Four Freedoms Plaza, Latvia, the Infinity Mansion, Banner Tech, etc. would be targeted for assimilation as weapons against their creators and the mages. The telepathics are likely useless against the fodders of Earth bot soldiers.

If everyone is forgetting, here's some feats that would be evidence for the machines easily winning this.

Female Ultron easily took over all of Earth's tech and raped IM in minutes.
Phalanx Ultron have no trouble overwhelming an entire race of Phalanx to his will.
Hank Pym fearing Ultron's access to his Infinite Mansion would give him access to attack anywhere in space. Pym's entire mansion and army of Jocasta were taken hold.
Brainiac taking ahold of War World.
Nimrod successfully putting Juggernaut in place using tight and sonic beams on the guy.

The mages are eating nukes for the most part. And if it came down to it, it wouldn't be hard to imagine the bots building a spire or turning satellites into neuro-disruptors based on Nimrod's weapon.


As soon as this fight starts, the big guns are all targeted wiped out while the rest of the heroes get their brains scrambled and all their techs forming into Phalanxes and killing them.


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I absolutely agree with this post, HOWEVER, Earth has a big, big, big, POWERFUL trump card on their side: The Molecule Man...

If he isnt jobbing, he single handedly defeats all of the tech guys in seconds...and they would be completely helpless to stop him.


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What if Amazo copies him?


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His armor has magical encantations that protect it for alloy manipulation? When did this happen? Henshaw and Phalanx Ultron can warp the metal on his armor to crush him.




Which all each eat we placed nukes teleported or planted thanks to Brainiac. Within the first few weeks, Batman's database, the Fortress of Solitude, and Cerebro are all used to locate these beings. Then for the rest of the year they'll develop a strategies to counter all of them, including neutralizing their powers.



Which gods reside on Earth? MM can have his powers stolen by Brainiac. They would need to just steal Doom's tech, not hard these guys.



Cerebro, Batcave, Doctor Doom's database, etc. They have a year to do this, it's a long time for Bots that can instantenous take over non-sentient machines.

And if they ran through databases of past history, they could reassemble Archenemy.


Dam...

Just saw this post...

With 1 years prep, and minus PIS, the machines/technopaths can definitely win this...

I am on your side now WWK; how can the machines be stopped!?

You'd need Franklin Richards preping via being a precog, but that defies the rules of this encounter as only the machines have prep time...

So yeah, minus PIS, Earth falls....


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What if Amazo copies him?


A "win at all costs" Owen reduces Amazo (as well as the rest of the machines/technopaths) into subatomic particles before any of them can bat an eye...

But if you introduce time travel into the equation (with Brainiac coordinating the effort), then the tech guys take this...


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Give Amazo a year, he'll probably copy Owen. Now what?


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Give Amazo a year, he'll probably copy Owen. Now what?


IF they passe Owen, MJJ, Jamie Bradrock and Franklin Richards, they have to still pass the toys in the closet of Reed Richards, one of them is the Celestial Nullifer and another one is the Ultimate Nullifer. And if that don't do, they can go infinity gem on their ass. The end.


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Dam...

Just saw this post...

With 1 years prep, and minus PIS, the machines/technopaths can definitely win this...

I am on your side now WWK; how can the machines be stopped!?

You'd need Franklin Richards preping via being a precog, but that defies the rules of this encounter as only the machines have prep time...

So yeah, minus PIS, Earth falls....


Franklin doesn't need prep time to see the future.

So franklin tells dr. strange what's going to happen, dr. strange travels ***further*** back in time and wipes ultron, brainiac, etc. from existence.


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Toys which could be hacked, though.


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IF they passe Owen, MJJ, Jamie Bradrock and Franklin Richards, they have to still pass the toys in the closet of Reed Richards, one of them is the Celestial Nullifer and another one is the Ultimate Nullifer. And if that don't do, they can go infinity gem on their ass. The end.


Copied, copied, copied, copied, might work but not sure, might work.

Amazo could potentially copy the gems and the IG itself.


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If within the year of prep Amazon copies absolutely every high end reality warper then the machines can take this, but it's essentially a stomp if Amazo is copying nigh omnipotents for an entire year.


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Copied, copied, copied, copied, might work but not sure, might work.

Amazo could potentially copy the gems and the IG itself.


Unless they use the IG to go back in time, before Amazo see the IG, and just transform him into god-knows-what. And taking out his power.


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Unless they use the IG to go back in time, before Amazo see the IG, and just transform him into god-knows-what. And taking out his power.


Isn't it still impossible to assemble the IG due to the Tribunal?


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Isn't it still impossible to assemble the IG due to the Tribunal?


It would need only the Power Gem, the Time Gem and the Reality Gem.


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