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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Anyone who thinks the PF wins also thinks that if the Presence wanted His agent to take the PF out He couldn't.

Which is just retarded.


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Fact is, we can't give Spectre credit for an ability he's never ever shown in his ENTIRE history. Until he's shown to be able to get the "full backing" of the Presence it's nothing more than unproven hyperbole. NO matter how much you guys wanna believe he could.. it has NEVER once happened.

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When has he ever been 'backed' by DC's God?


it also happened here too:

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Fact is, we can't give Spectre credit for an ability he's never ever shown in his ENTIRE history. Until he's shown to be able to get the "full backing" of the Presence it's nothing more than unproven hyperbole. NO matter how much you guys wanna believe he could.. it has NEVER once happened.

It's just a matter of logic.

Presence wants Spectre to destroy Phoenix Force, PF gets destroyed.

This is simple shit Kurupt.


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^ If Presence wanted Batman to take out Phoenix Force, PF gets destroyed.

This whole "Spectre =/= Presence, but basically he is" argument is tired.


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^ If Presence wanted Batman to take out Phoenix Force, PF gets destroyed.

This whole "Spectre =/= Presence, but basically he is" argument is tired.

erm

Batman isn't the Presence's Agent.

So far as we know...


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^ Yet... if Presence wanted Batman to take out Phoenix Force, Batman would do it. Presence wanting Spectre to do something is meaningless as that rationale could be applied to Presence backing anybody.


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^ Yet... if Presence wanted Batman to take out Phoenix Force, Batman would do it. Presence wanting Spectre to do something is meaningless as that rationale could be applied to Presence backing anybody.

Spectre is the Presence's hitman. Batman isn't.

But off the record, I think if Presence wanted Batman to destroy the Phoenix Force it would still happen, albeit it wouldn't be a matter of Batman destroying it with any kind of power, rather through some kind of cosmic finagling.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's just a matter of logic.

Presence wants Spectre to destroy Phoenix Force, PF gets destroyed.

This is simple shit Kurupt.


Omega you're giving credit to Spectre and saying he could do something he NEVER once has. Just as I stated before... we don't give credit to hulk and say he is the strongest in the universe as beyonder stated because we've never seen him reach that level of anger. You're using a double standard here. As ODG also says.. if the presence wants anybody to win.. they win.. big whoop.

Anyways, I think Spectre wins even without full back from the Presence

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Spectre is the Presence's hitman. Batman isn't.

But off the record, I think if Presence wanted Batman to destroy the Phoenix Force it would still happen, albeit it wouldn't be a matter of Batman destroying it with any kind of power, rather through some kind of cosmic finagling.
Who cares how it happens? If Presence backs somebody in an endeavor, it gets done regardless of whether its Spectre or Batman or Superman or a retarded one-armed monkey.

Spectre has enough feats on his own account to stand on his own two feet. The constant appeals to the Presence backing him render discussions about Spectre utterly meaningless.


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Iiiiiii get it now!! Like if the presence wanted Ambush Bug or Aunt may to tool superman then they could.


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The Presence empowering the Spectre to do his act, is backed by a convoluted argument. When if ever has this happened, and what where the results?

Really it comes down to who is being a host of the Spectre, and what was he capable off. The Spectre maybe accessing greater level of power (on its own ) but, but how that power is manifested is dependent on the host. Sounds familiar huh?


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The Presence empowering the Spectre to do his act, is backed by a convoluted argument. When if ever has this happened, and what where the results?

Really it comes down to who is being a host of the Spectre, and what was he capable off. The Spectre maybe accessing greater level of power (on its own ) but, but how that power is manifested is dependent on the host. Sounds familiar huh?


Pretty much what I've been saying... PM bro with that Avenger stuff or info

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Iiiiiii get it now!! Like if the presence wanted Ambush Bug or Aunt may to tool superman then they could.
Irwin gets the job done against top tiers anyways...

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