Yes, I went to college. I started off at a local community college where I learned to work on my academic ability and then transferred to the University of Virginia from which I graduated with a Bachelor's in English Language and Literature.
I went to college to learn about the world and come out a more well rounded, refined, sophisticated and educated a person. After spending years exploring the macromolecular world within our blood-pumping veins I switched to getting immersed in the vast and intense world of literature in the English language. it has been an unbelievably profound experience. college, to me isn't a factory that manufactures the future workers of america- i deliberately chose a course of study that emphasized the strengthening of the mind and of myself as an individual. Now with a college degree in hand, I am navigating the waters of the "real world" and figuring out what to make a career.
actually a general business degree or one in marketing and sales is quite unnecessary to pursue careers in them. unless of course you want to work your way into the executive team for which i'm pretty sure you'd need to get an MBA at some point. i have an English degree and i have had a fantastic sales and marketing job offers. that i have 6 months + internship experience is helpful though.
I actually now work for a marketing firm for the past two weeks. I'm doing office management for the idiot marketing team, since they know nothing of maintaining budgets and schedules.
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Did you go to university? yes.
Why or why not? a few reasons. I wanted the "college experience". I wanted to learn more about art. I had no interest in taking the bait from military recruiters.
What did you study? art.
Did you get a degree? What degree? yes. BA, Art History/Graphic design.
Do you think it is useful/important? useful, not at all. Important... to me personally, sure.
What's with all these Bachelor degrees? Get a Ph.D. or at the very least a Master's degree. And what about the fields? Art, marketing, hotel management?
I mean I understand why people study juridical- and medical programs to become an attorney or a physician. I don't agree with the mindset behind it---hence why I study physics---but I understand why people seek those professions.
But I will never for the life of me understand why someone would choose to study to get behind the desk at a hotel.
Yes, mostly because of my parents' expectations. If I had to do it again I would go to college instead.
I majored in history with a minor in classical studies. I graduated with an honours bachelor.
Like I said if I had to do it over, I'd have gone to college instead, which is what I will be doing in 2012, getting a degree in international trade management.
Having worked the last year since school, I realized that the only thing I really love is travel and hopefully my new degree will bring me ever closer to more of it.
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I can somewhat understand his sentiment, but he's completely missed the point. Obviously the reason why people study art, marketing, hotel management is cause that's the most usual requirement to get hired and make money.
Now where I can somewhat follow (and that may be my Mathematical snobbishness talking) is that I think that a lot of these university courses aren't necessary in a non-artificial way, and are, perhaps in many cases, a less than ideal way to actually learn or get expertise in these subjects.
And yes, that was your mathematical snobbishness talking. But then again, I'm used to getting crap like that. Even when I was studying journalism people who were studying bullshit like literary sciences or medieval paleography would give me crap for studying something that directly led to a concrete profession.
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People get a bachelor's degree to make money, sure art is a curious choice, but you'll still be better off with it than without it, and ultimately if you enjoy it on top of that advantage that's good, too.
Again, I'm not giving you crap, I think it makes great sense to study it. I'm saying that the system we have is set up for it to make great sense even though there may be better systems out there.
I didn't warp it, I generalized it. But be my guest and explain your choices. Surely at some point in your life you must have thought: "This sounds like a really good idea."
Not only does people who've studied; information technology, biotechnology, architecture, so on, make a lot of money---making the years of study an economical investment---but they also get work in an intellectually stimulating environment and do what they enjoy doing, and they can always apply to work with something different within their fields. Where can someone who've studied hotel management work if he wants to work with something else?
As I see it, people like you had this mindset while applying for university or college: "I'll get a degree so I can brag about how I've attended college, but I don't have the patience or will to study something challenging and productive."
While I---and people who decided to study something worthwhile---had this mindset: "I'll study this program because I love the field of study, and I love overcoming challenges and grow as a person, not only on an intellectual level, but also in terms of self-respect. I couldn't possibly live with thinking back and seeing myself taking the easy way out."
I'm just being honest. I really can't find any logical justifications for those choices, consequently I'll consider them irrational, and the ones making them stupid.
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Jun 23rd, 2011 02:52 PM
my bad.
