Mantis is supposed to be second only to Darksied in terms of power... but he is also a man and I've never seen any reference to notable level of skill, let alone a suggestion that he is one of the most skilled fighters in the Universe. I have no clue who this female Mantis that Orion fought, who happens to be one of the best fighters in DC, is.
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Orion has been around long before man even existed. Skill is a hard thing to gauge, but just because Steve MAY be a better MA, doesn't mean he'll win in a fight.
And I'm thinking of the female NG who is considered the best MA in the universe. The name is escaping me. Orion beat her and Mantis in hth. Darkseid, Mantis, and Superman are all out of his weight class and power, too.
Would the same apply to Thor/Hercules/Wonder Woman vs Batman in hth(no powers)
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Just trying to get an idea where you place their skill level.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I stated above the woman's name isn't Mantis. The name is escaping me. However, like Srank said, Mantis is second only to DS. He's taken on Infinity Man and Dr. Fate back in the day. He's also wrestled with Orion and in Simonson's run, Orion pretty much handed his ass.
Its not about Steve being a better MA. Its about his effectiveness against the like of the others that far outshine Orion. By your logic I can reverse what you say and say it doesn't mean Orion will win the fight just because of his longevity.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
First of all Mantis ISN'T the greatest MA in the universe, not even close. Second, Orion has superhuman strength, speed, reflexes, and durability. The Orion in this thread doesn't. Finally, it's not who you beat but how you beat them. The term jobbing exists for a reason.