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vansonbee
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Thanos > Reed in utilizing the IG. Enough said~ beer


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Originally posted by Galan007
It wasn't used to any type of extreme degree, mind you, but it was used nonetheless.

Illuminati:

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...It was never explained how LT's ruling was negated.


Oh ok. I read those before.

For Illuminati, I don't believe the gauntlet ever featured the gems to "act in unison" as LT decreed. They just called to each other...so from my perspective, it still wasn't used in the same terms as Thanos/Magus/Nebula/Adam Warlock used it.

For Avengers, I had the feeling that stark could have achieved the same affect using the space or time gem. And, IIRC he then "wishes" for the gauntlet to disappear...I think that's possible using just the reality gem while connected to the other gems.

In other words I think the gems can be collected together and used, just not used "in unison" which was LT's decree, IIRC.


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It wasn't used to any type of extreme degree, mind you, but it was used nonetheless.

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What happened then?


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Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Oh ok. I read those before.

For Illuminati, I don't believe the gauntlet ever featured the gems to "act in unison" as LT decreed. They just called to each other...so from my perspective, it still wasn't used in the same terms as Thanos/Magus/Nebula/Adam Warlock used it.

For Avengers, I had the feeling that stark could have achieved the same affect using the space or time gem. And, IIRC he then "wishes" for the gauntlet to disappear...I think that's possible using just the reality gem while connected to the other gems.

In other words I think the gems can be collected together and used, just not used "in unison" which was LT's decree, IIRC.
You're reaching a bit. The gems were able to work in unison, the issues were clear as day.

I can say this with certainty, because when Magus first assembled the incomplete IG, he was unable to, even slightly, activate any of the gems:

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...But Reed and Tony very clearly were able to utilize them.

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What happened then?
Uatu gave Reed a sob-story, so he decided to disband the gauntlet.


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You're reaching a bit. The gems were able to work in unison, the issues were clear as day.

I can say this with certainty, because when Magus first assembled the incomplete IG, he was unable to, even slightly, activate any of the gems:

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...But Reed and Tony very clearly were able to utilize them.

Uatu gave Reed a sob-story, so he decided to disband the gauntlet.


That's contradicted by an incomplete IG redirecting the Ultimate Nullifier. So it's still nebulous at best.


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That's contradicted by an incomplete IG redirecting the Ultimate Nullifier.
...Which was only accomplished AFTER LT momentarily lifted his ruling. Before that, the incomplete IG Magus assembled was completely useless (see the above scan.)


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Thanos wins, not all Infinity gauntlets work on the same level as 616 Infinity Gauntlet! Thanos with 616 IG slaughters the Celetials.

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Scathan and Tiamut are members of the Celestial race and theres a freaking universe (or atleast a dimension) full of them...

Its inevitable; Thanos losses....


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Scathan and Tiamut are members of the Celestial race and theres a freaking universe (or atleast a dimension) full of them...

Its inevitable; Thanos losses....
Explain how it is inevitable.

Well there are an assload of celestials thanos defeated beings exponentially more powerful with a friggin smile on his face.


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Scathan defeated a foe that was apparently beyond the Living Tribunal; if he alone can manage that, then Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet has no prayer against the entire Celestial race...


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Scathan defeated a foe that was apparently beyond the Living Tribunal; if he alone can manage that, then Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet has no prayer against the entire Celestial race...
I still don't believe that scathan is greater than LT. I've seen the scans.

But just doesn't work with me.


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Scathan and Tiamut are members of the Celestial race and theres a freaking universe (or atleast a dimension) full of them...

Its inevitable; Thanos losses....
it took doom 400 years to beat them with the IG in a what if


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it took doom 400 years to beat them with the IG in a what if


It took Doom 400 years with the IG AND the Beyonder's power to beat them in a What If. The gems were drained of power and shattered and the Beyonder's power was almost burnt out.


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it took doom 400 years to beat them with the IG in a what if


Doom also had The Beyonders power and (at the conclusion of the battle) the infinity gems were shattered and most of the Beyonders power was burned out...

So once again, Thanos is losing here...

Edit: beaten by zopzop! smile


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Why are people bothering to bring up the what if? Its a what if. Non-canon people.


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Why are people bothering to bring up the what if? Its a what if. Non-canon people.


The Pro Celestial side didn't bring it up. We were just explaining what went down in that issue.


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I don't remember the living tribun ever actually ruling on the gems never working in unison... "again"...

I do remember eternity saying as much...

I think there is a cop out now where they are treating it as if living tribunal had never rescinded it and eternity lied.


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Originally posted by zopzop
Most definitely written down. There were scans of alt reality Reed saying the Gems only function in the universe they are native to. There are scans of Warlock saying that the Gems derive their power from the Big Bang energy known as the Power Primordial (why does this matter? Because in another issue Reed called the PF the energies of the Big Bang and the PF is a joke IMHO).

I'm going to wiki that issue (FF 572) something sounds fishy about it.


IN which comic was it stated that IG derives energy from big bang?
do you have scan ?

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Thanos wins.


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