Anyway, to get on topic, I am a huge Thor fan, but I think the Hulk wins this one eventually...
Thor would have to resort to exotic power usage to beat the Hulk from issue 635; if he fights as he did in Blood and Thunder (when he basically overwhelmed everyone in his path with brute strength and power) Thor goes down...its only a matter of time.
Yes, I am saying Thor thought the same only that he wasn't holding back and wanted to kill anything that got in his way.
Rulk killed Hulk and defeated him how many times ? WW Hulk burned out against the Sentry.
Thor crushed the Rulk after he was hammering into the Hulk. Rulk even admitted he probably would have killed him had the Hulk not jumped back into the fight. Yes, I do unlike Hulk who was actually killed by Rulk Thor only lost one time and due to his own hammer used in the unique set of circumstances of the situation they were in.
Bfr is a win and it was right after he defeated worthy Thing so it wasn't just a one on one fight but in the end Thor defeated an amped Nul.
Strange held back and had his fingers broke but if he wanted to he could kill Hulk with one finger's worth of magic.
Thor humiliated the Surfer who has never lost to the Hulk when he didn't stop attacking. LOL.
Hulk died over and over again while fighting. No one was running from him in fear like they were against Thor in blood and thunder.
He was in a beserker rage but his strength wasn't amped ten times. Take that how you want.
The dialogue makes it clear they die and fight over and over again. You don't understand words but the rest of us do.
Thanos was hurt by gun lasers and was reduced to a skeleton by antimatter blasts and also knocked around by a giant dog. Gotcha. Let's discredit that Thanos was weakened or weaker than a full powered Thanos...I want to use all of his showings. Odin would still merk him since he has done so in the past and Tyrant would make Thanos retreat like he did in the past as well. Let's not forget about a weakened maker koing him...that can happen again as well. Two can play this game.
Thor snuck attack Rulk just like you claim Maker surprised Thanos ((after the ko). Stop being a hypocrite quanny. In a face to face fight, an amped Thor lost to a Rulk that wasn't in the middle of a fight between a top tier Savage Hulk and by a Rulk that wasn't overheating.
I agree, bfr is a win...that was a good option for Thor. If Thanos fought WBH, that would be a good option for him as well.
Strange got beat to sleep by Hulk. Stop making excuses for people that lost to Hulk. Strange with an amp got worked...TWICE. To bad for that finger..lol.
Let me help you out Quan...I am always here to help the people that are not knowledged enough. Learn and pay attention.
After all of this...Hulk stands on the edge of a cliff wishing everyone to come back to life. He is still in Super Saiyan mode...tanked all of it (which was shown in my scan).
The dialog made it clear that the dead will be brought back to life...to bad Hulk wasn't part of that.
Now let's get to Rulk beating Hulk.
Rulk tries absorbing WWH (look at the dialog between both Savage Hulk and WWH). Rulk states "I took your power before...WWH tells him "you can't handle my power" and he FAILS at draining WWH.
To my knowledge the only times Thor even tapped into the gem were against Dr.Strange and Adam Warlock and then to try and break out of that force block. Are we supposed to assume he was tapping into it subconsciously like Drax or something?
Most likely. But like Drax, he seemed to be very inefficient with it compared to the pros (Unless backed into a corner it seems). The amp was intended to be there, though it wasn't very apparent. Most reasonable answer imo is that it was a gradual, very slow process.
When I see people claim shit like his strength was doubled, I can't help but laugh. He was taking out Heralds with ease and seemed to be getting more powerful over time before the Gem. With that much of a leap, he'd probably kill Surfer accidentally.
Regarding this thread, Hulk would most likely win due to Thor fighting like a brute, but he'd get some licks in no doubt.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Jan 30th, 2012 at 12:40 AM
True, they highlighted it's usage but I think the intention was that it was backing Thor once he got it. Didn't see any evidence of doubled might, at least not in practice. He want from wrecking Heralds like a Thanos level character to wrecking Heralds like a Thanos level character.
I know there was some statements about how he'd destroy Asgard and the Universe, he had infinite power etc. but it's pretty obvious that this was directed to the Gem's overall potential.
Anyways no need to give it too much thought, I doubt the writers did.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on Jan 30th, 2012 at 12:50 AM
That's why Thor never went more than 2x his normal self in the arc. He didn't tapped into the gem well enough or frequent enough. Thus in this fight he is in character and would do the same.
Once he saw he was outmatched physically though I wouldnt be at all surprised if he did tap into it. Which would make the fight much more interesting. That said, yes he gets beat on without it. Not without getting his own shots in of course but he loses soundly.
It appeared as just an item for the character instead of a weapon. There wasn't anything stated that he used it during most of his battle..no proof at all. The people that faced Thor just fought a pissed, not holding back Thor that was out for blood. He was so bent on running through people where I can't even imagine the time he actually tried using the gem and him wearing it isn't proof that he was using it consistently (since it takes skill and training to usethe gem properly...time Thor didn't have).
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