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Super Boy Prime vs King Thor
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quanchi112
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Thor fatigued himself repairing the moon.
What happened in that issue was vague on purpose. It was told via storybook fashion. The writer even addresses that in an interview.

I'd rather fatigue myself even if that were true repairing the moon then being flat out dominated by the teen titans in combat. Quit picking and choosing. This is a combat thread.


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Based on what ?


Based on him saying it. Did you even read the comic?

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Based on him saying it. Did you even read the comic?
Yes. I did. You do realize a lot transpired after that scene. That wasn't King Thor at the end of the run. At the end he slagged the Destroyer. King Thor had over a hundred years to fine tune the Odin power. It's like using Legacy feats to argue against Genis. Blatant dishonesty. If I hadn't read it and was a gullible person maybe be more inclined to fall for your lies.


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King thor no contest bfr him inside a red sun or destroys the sun with king godblast making prime instantly lose his powers become a mortal and die in space.

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King thor no contest bfr him inside a red sun or destroys the sun with king godblast making prime instantly lose his powers become a mortal and die in space.


I saw someone named "Hulkbuster" had commented on this thread and immediately knew who they said was going to win before I opened it. By and large Hulk fans who have no knowledge of DC are always going to say the Marvel character will win in any cross-company fight.

The fact that you think that destroying the sun, or bfr-ing him into a red sun would "instantly" depower him shows you have no knowledge of the character whatsoever.

Also funny is that you assume Thor would know Prime's "weaknesses" before the fight. And even if he did somehow have the unfair advantage of fore-knowledge of Prime, you have no faith in Thor to win without resorting to weakness-exploitation. Something which is doubtful he would do anyway, considering the history of the character.

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What happened in that issue was vague on purpose. It was told via storybook fashion. The writer even addresses that in an interview.

I'd rather fatigue myself even if that were true repairing the moon then being flat out dominated by the teen titans in combat. Quit picking and choosing. This is a combat thread.

He was exhausted repairing moon and that's it. even someone like kyle rayner has better feats. PIS.


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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I saw someone named "Hulkbuster" had commented on this thread and immediately knew who they said was going to win before I opened it. By and large Hulk fans who have no knowledge of DC are always going to say the Marvel character will win in any cross-company fight.

The fact that you think that destroying the sun, or bfr-ing him into a red sun would "instantly" depower him shows you have no knowledge of the character whatsoever.

Also funny is that you assume Thor would know Prime's "weaknesses" before the fight. And even if he did somehow have the unfair advantage of fore-knowledge of Prime, you have no faith in Thor to win without resorting to weakness-exploitation. Something which is doubtful he would do anyway, considering the history of the character.

okay you have a point about explotable weakness. But superboy prime is weak to red sun(thats why they imprisoned him near a red sun) and instantly loses his powers without a sun, reason he needed anti monitor armor to keep yellow sunlight at all time charging his cells. Thor can destroy planets...example when he fought pheniox. And thor has been known to bfr. plus I think through battling superboy he would eventually figure out his weakness since thor is an excellent tactical warrior , especially considering superboy prime babbles eerything and whines. example when he was complaining on the dc forums as a troll.

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okay you have a point about explotable weakness. But superboy prime is weak to red sun(thats why they imprisoned him near a red sun) and instantly loses his powers without a sun, reason he needed anti monitor armor to keep yellow sunlight at all time charging his cells. Thor can destroy planets...example when he fought pheniox. And thor has been known to bfr. plus I think through battling superboy he would eventually figure out his weakness since thor is an excellent tactical warrior , especially considering superboy prime babbles eerything and whines. example when he was complaining on the dc forums as a troll.


Do you realize he needed that suit because he had been imprisoned under red sunlight for a long period of time. He doesn't INSTANTLY lose his powers without a yellow sun. He's completely owned numerous heralds in deep space, nowhere near a yellow sun.

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Do you realize he needed that suit because he had been imprisoned under red sunlight for a long period of time. He doesn't INSTANTLY lose his powers without a yellow sun. He's completely owned numerous heralds in deep space, nowhere near a yellow sun.

he owned the guardians of the lanterns and anyother high hera was throughthe boost he got by killing the eldest one. The antimonitor suit has been worn twice one being after he escaped. but both reasons being that it kept his power at prime levels since without the constant flow of yellow sun he is powerless. The red sun weakens him but he did fight both supermen and outpowering them only because the red sun weaken them as well. superboy prime is highly weak to bfr. flas has beaten him using through the sppedforce which is essentialy bfr. And thor has been known to bfr opponents. he is also tactile and quickly learns the ropes in battle. He has defeated foes without foreknowledge of weakness like rulk,juggernuat and he even blasted galactus. superboy prime would give him a fight but through bfr thor would eventually win regardless since superboy has no way of counter such a manuver not even using speed blitz since thor hammer is the source of the bfr technique and is just as fast when he spins it or throws it.

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He was exhausted repairing moon and that's it. even someone like kyle rayner has better feats. PIS.
I just told you the writer was vague and said he purposely wrote it that way. You then repost yourself while I just rebutted your point.


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That King Thor was also far less experienced than the King Thor shown in the picture, who I assume is the one we're using (mid-late game Reigning). That Thor later had a vision with the Odin Force explaining to him that repairing celestial bodies was nothing compared to the full power of the OF, which then proceeded to create a pocket universe.


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Yes this is peak King Thor. At the end of the reigning. Not Nooby king Thor when he had just received the OF.


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Peak King Thor w/Mjolnir?

Does not look good for Prime at all.


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Peak King Thor w/Mjolnir?

Does not look good for Prime at all.


Shut up


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Superman prime was trapped in the speed force dimension fighting the flashes, without a yellow sun for multiple years.

In the end due to his high intellect he built a suit to supply him yellow sun energy in a yellow sunless dimension.

The fact that he was able to fight for years on end without yellow sunlight goes to show how long his energy reserves can last.

Additionally, King Thor isn't even going to be able to react let alone process that SBP is attacking him. Speed really is one of the greatest factors in a fight, and Prime is moving and reacting millions upon millions of times faster than Thor.


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Peak King Thor w/Mjolnir?

Does not look good for Prime at all.


Mjolnir included yes.

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I think this quote sums its up nicely, on how Thor even if operating on picto second level speeds (which he has never shown anywhere close to being able to do so), would still be motionless compared to Flash.

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If this is a fight in which you take into account reaction capabilities of microseconds, nanoseconds and such. It means a character can react at microseconds but the other guy at nanoseconds is effectively 1,000 times faster than the microseconds guy, with the same strength packing punch or above.

I don't think I can defeat a guy who moves 1000 times faster than myself who hits as hard as me but if anyone does, feel free to do so.

Second
decisecond
centisecond
millisecond Human speed of thought 300 milliseconds
microsecond
nanosecond
picosecond
femtosecond Flash reaction time is 1 trillion times faster than average humans at his highest showing IIRC
attosecond
zeptosecond
yoctosecond

So make your own calculations and come to what ever conclusion you might want.


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far as prime, it's crazy, one minute he can appear to be a blithering idiot, the next a scientific genius, the guy has a rather high intellect

far as the winner? i'm undecided


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far as prime, it's crazy, one minute he can appear to be a blithering idiot, the next a scientific genius, the guy has a rather high intellect

far as the winner? i'm undecided


It all depends on the writer. For instance we know Superman is a genius, yet he hardly uses his brilliance in a fight.

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