I differ on opinions, I believe revan had more understanding of the force overall, as he not only studied the light as a master of it and the dark as a sithlord of it, but he also actively utilized the powers of both in unison in constant field experience.
True, but that hardly would make him stronger than say, vitiate, who was a far greater master of the dark side. I completely understand where you're coming from, however utilizing both light and dark doesn't give him a trump card against more powerful opponents.
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I by no means meant to convey revan with knowledge and mastery of using the light and dark in unison meant he was stronger than sidious or vitate.
My point was that vitate was truly a powerful dark side user, particularly in psionics.
Sidious also has a broad mastery of the dark side, but a small scope of his knowledge is viable for direct unprepared for combat such as he and revan fighting without prior warning.
Sidious most commonly shows that he uses force lightning, telekenisis, and the force to amp his movement speeds for combat. However i think he is a bad match up for revan because revan has shown to be able to completely absorb/negate force lightning from everyone except vitate's full repeated blast of it.
I just dont see sidious having lightning that is stronger than vitates in direct combat, it doesnt mean sidious is weaker than vitate it just means that in my opinion sidious strengths are spread in other areas differing from vitate.
Furthermore revan also negates the tk that sidious has in the same way he negates the lightning, by allowing the dark and light side to flow through him in unison.
I think its going to come down to a saber dual, which is entirely opinion since we have no way of knowing who is better. From my opinion i would say revan would have the advantage due to him being able to use lightning and tk against sidious, while revan is able to nullify sidious lightning and tk in return. Furthermore revan could yse the light side to constantly regenerate himself, thus he will never yire from fatigue.
I guess it comes down to if sidious could out burst revan fast enough, before revan defeats sidious in a duel of attrition.
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Actually, I think Revan is better at combating the likes of Vitiate. Why? because since Revan lacks saber feats, and hasn't really showing too many devastatingly powerful offensive force applications, he wouldn't do too well against someone who outclasses him in saber combat like Sidious. So logically he'd want to fight someone like Vitiate, who isn't a user of lightsabers.
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Remembering back on it all, I think the only reason Yoda didn't win is because George Lucas wasn't allowing him to, if he had won (which he could have had he decided to jump back on the ****ing pods and hop back up to Sidious) there would be no Episode 4, 5, or 6.
See, I put Revan at Dooku level. Where instead of being really good at lightsabers and pretty good with TK and lightning, Revans pretty good with lightsabers and really good with TK and Force defenses.
I see his fight with Vitiate as comparable to Dooku's fight with Yoda. Dooku was able to hang with Yoda in a lightsaber fight for a while but was ultimately outmatched. Revan was able to hang with Vitiate in a Force duel but was ultimately outmatched.
Which is, let's be honest, really good. If you rank him somewhere between those guys [who are undoubtedly tier 1 and tier 2], Revan is definitely amongst the most powerful Jedi in the mythos. I know some people hate his Gary Stu-esque character and he's sometimes underestimated because of this, but in truth he's very impressive.
A really good What-If scenario would involve a pyrrhic victory on behalf of Yoda, who dies, and Anakin defeats Obi-Wan but the latter escapes. Granted, it destroys the OT but it would set up for a pretty awesome The Duellists-style drawn out battle with the former master and apprentice gathering allies and trying to kill each other and they both become more and more wicked as time goes on, until Luke comes to adulthood and redeems both.
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