I'm just curious at the backlash MGS seems to be getting. As I recall, none of the prominent characters are particularly bad at hand to hand. In fact, many are rather skilled. Certainly no less that Zuko or Fox are, at any rate.
Otherwise I have little to contribute to this thread, as I don't tend to favor unarmed fighters in most media. I suppose I can put forward someone like Samurai Jack, who has shown a great deal of unarmed prowess, though it's not much compared to his sword skills.
It's not so much backlash, there's an abundance of people who talk about series that they have little to no knowledge of. And think that because someone can execute a judo throw or beat up 1-2 fodder that they must be master hand to hand combatants.
Example, most people who are skilled combatants can beat characters that are physically stronger and faster than they are through skill alone. Most MGS characters cannot do this. Big Boss was thrashed several times over the course of a few games by characters who are stronger than him but have a low skill level, the same thing can be said for Solid Snake. If these characters can routinely out performed stronger and faster characters in hand to hand then someone might be able to argue for them.
On the opposite end you named Samurai Jack, THAT would be a strong contender for someone with uber skill since he's been able to beat superpowered characters with swordsmanship and martial arts alone.
The idea here is to see what characters can actually accomplish through their skill, not who can get circle jerked the most
Never heard of it, nor do I see the relevance here, just someone who seems bitter over a previous internet beating and attempted to cop out using someone Else's post.
Flattered you put effort into reading my history. Tad stalkery, but flattering. Ah well, a hypersonic Raiden is all good and well with his argument dead.
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If this is your idea of flattery then you must live one sad pathetic life devoid of any meaning. Not sure who hypersonic Raiden is, the only Raiden I know of is the one that was humiliated by Vamp.
So you're going to tell me they're NOT skilled and still be able to take yourself seriously?! Lel at you "educating" anyone!
It's an occupational requirement for them to be skilled, and they've proven it on numerous occasions. Keep in mind, they're not some almighty metas/heralds, so it's easier to appreciate it because they actually depend on it; and they succeed. Of course, you'll find every reason to hate them now.
Really?! Because all I'm hearing is asshurt hate. Also, why are you not dead yet? Eh. It doesn't matter. Live on! I'm done with you.
This post shows that you haven't been paying even the slightest bit of a attention to this thread. The entire argument in this thread isn't to see who's skilled, it's to see who's skill actually STANDS OUT in comparison to thousands and thousands of other fictional characters from movies, video games, shows etc.
The baseline of impressive skill is to be able to beat characters that physically outclass them in hand to hand, something neither of them have been able to to.
Why am I not dead yet? Probably because I have more to contribute to this world than you do. Given your inability to read between the lines and put more than 2 seconds of rationale in your post, I say you have a bright future of cleaning toilets ahead of you. Chances are I'll be around a lot longer than you'll be.
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