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LordofBrooklyn
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Please answer before the house of EL gather and ruin your thread.

Watch your mouth heretic!

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I wouldn't argue too much over the semantics. To me, the bottom line is that he is different than other heroes in this respect, but he is not the Hulk. He is somewhere inbetween, in a vague and slightly undefined way.

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A recent example would be Thor having extreme trouble with a Black Berserker on his first go around to smashing tons of them almost easily.

Another example would be Thor getting his ass straight up kicked by one secondary adamantium Ultron and having to go all out to destroy it, to smashing many many secondary adamantium Ultrons when he was fighting an army of them.

Dynamic strength Thor.

Ridiculous.

Again, Thor could've always done that given his depictions.

An Imperiex probe killed thousands of Daxamites who are physical peers to Kryptonians. Smashing them with ease is indeed TRUE dynamic strength, not what you are suggesting here.

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But if u take an objective look at his history superman more than any other character is only limited by his will

As ODG has pointed out: every single comic book character is limited by their will--and most characters have pulled some retardedly uber feats out of their asses when they stop holding back.

Anywho, we must remember that at the end of the day Superman is always going to be DC's poster child, and as such he's always going to be as strong as the story needs him to be.

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Ridiculous.

Again, Thor could've always done that given his depictions.

An Imperiex probe killed thousands of Daxamites who are physical peers to Kryptonians. Smashing them with ease is indeed TRUE dynamic strength, not what you are suggesting here.

Even by your own definition this isn't an example of dynamic strength just using more strength.

WW also defeated them as did Doomsday among others.

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Even by your own definition this isn't an example of dynamic strength just using more strength.

WW also defeated them as did Doomsday among others.

Why do you do this? laughing out loud

Diana destroyed probes the way Superman did when the blocks were off?

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No one knows what happened at Daxam. I find it disingenuous to suggest a single Probe is as powerful as thousands of Daxamites in a straight battle.

That being said, people trying to oversimplify Superman's power dynamic by insisting he is in no way different than other heroes are really not being helpful. That simply isn't true. Exactly how different he is is indeed debatable, though.

Jan 29th, 2014 11:24 PM

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Why do you do this?

Diana destroyed probes the way Superman did when the blocks were off?

You acted like the probes were destroying everyone in their path which they weren't.

Doomsday wrecked them just as easily.

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No one knows what happened at Daxam. I find it disingenuous to suggest a single Probe is as powerful as thousands of Daxamites in a straight battle.

What you find disingenuous is besides the point.

What matters is Superman unleashed= Thousands of Daxamites as per OUR WORLDS AT WAR.

Canon! cool

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LordofBrooklyn
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You acted like the probes were destroying everyone in their path which they weren't.

Doomsday wrecked them just as easily.

Have you read OUR WORLDS AT WAR?

I won't even get into the power that Superman has at a sundipped level given the canon of that story.

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Okay. Now I know you are joking about Superman = thousands of Daxamites lol

As for Diana splitting a Probe, she needed Superman's help to do it. He ripped its arm off first. I remember when the Writer said this it caused serious anger among WW fans lol

Jan 29th, 2014 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Ridiculous.

Again, Thor could've always done that given his depictions.

An Imperiex probe killed thousands of Daxamites who are physical peers to Kryptonians. Smashing them with ease is indeed TRUE dynamic strength, not what you are suggesting here.

Yes, Thor doing something he previously had loads of trouble doing is ridiculous.

Great logic

So, Black Lightning, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Zod, The Lasso of Truth are > 100 000 Daxamites too since this is the only thing that defines them apparently?

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LordofBrooklyn
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Okay. Now I know you are joking about Superman = thousands of Daxamites lol

As for Diana splitting a Probe, she needed Superman's help to do it. He ripped its arm off first. I remember when the Writer said this it caused serious anger among WW fans lol

No one who actually read OUR WORLDS AT WAR takes Quan's "Appraisal" of events seriously.

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LordofBrooklyn
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Yes, Thor doing something he previously had loads of trouble doing is ridiculous.

Great logic

My logic is great actually as my statement refers to the standard I mentioned earlier.

Show me where a character, including Thor outside of Warrior Madness, goes up a tier or more definitively.

Show me something that several of Thor's peers had troubling doing that the Odinson rose above them definitively to accomplish. Without an amp of course.

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Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Have you read OUR WORLDS AT WAR?

I won't even get into the power that Superman has at a sundipped level given the canon of that story.

Yes. Can you follow along with the conversation ?

You apparently go from one wild tangent to the next without being able to connect the dots to your own posts.

Based off your reasoning WW>>>thousands of daxamites.

laughing out loud

That isn't canon anymore. Fun while it lasted. But that is an external power up anyways.

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My logic is great actually as my statement refers to the standard I mentioned earlier.

Show me where a character, including Thor outside of Warrior Madness, goes up a tier or more definitively.

Show me something that several of Thor's peers had troubling doing that the Odinson rose above them definitively to accomplish. Without an amp of course.

Like beating Ultron who previously smashed the Avengers including Thor, by going all out?
And then destroying a shitton of the same Ultron later?

Or fighting one single Black Berserker for hours, and then running through them almost comically throughout the arc?

Also, explain why I couldn't use WM Thor either. Is it because it defeats your premise?

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LordofBrooklyn
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Based off your reasoning WW>>>thousands of daxamites.

That was clearly a joke.

You are desperate at this point.

I've been to another site and I see that your failure is nearing a multiversal level now.

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Jan 29th, 2014 11:39 PM

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A recent example would be Thor having extreme trouble with a Black Berserker on his first go around to smashing tons of them almost easily.

Another example would be Thor getting his ass straight up kicked by one secondary adamantium Ultron and having to go all out to destroy it, to smashing many many secondary adamantium Ultrons when he was fighting an army of them.

Dynamic strength Thor.

This plus what Galan said pretty much sums it up. If you're giving Superman dynamic strength due to some circumstances that had happened outside of his true power potential, then this needs to be shared for the other hero's as well...example, Thor.

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I guess it depends on how much juice he's absorbed.

Sun amped>>>normal>>>no sun for quite a while..

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LordofBrooklyn
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This plus what Galan said pretty much sums it up. If you're giving Superman dynamic strength due to some circumstances that had happened outside of his true power potential, then this needs to be shared for the other hero's as well...example, Thor.

"Outside of his true power potential"

What do you mean by this?

Show me the instances that define this statement.

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